It's not exactly a gift. It's a recognition for a contribution pefrormed. There are, admittedly, strings attached, although there are none that I consider to be ethical issues.
I completely resent your entire assertion that I am somehow unethical because I accept the title and gifts associated with being an MVP. I will defend my standards of ethics against anyone's, including your poorly defined and indefensible set. In fact, I was nearly fired from my current job because I defended ethical behavior, but the system worked and I am still here. (This was completely unrelated to anything surrounding Microsoft or MVP.) So, let's get back to the real argument. Please either (1) prove how being an MVP is unethical, or (2) go away and let this thread rest. I tire of your repeated extrapolations, digressions, and less-than-brilliant treatises. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics The flaw here is that that "Cisco Certified" has clearly defined things that must be met and requires a payment to the vendor to achieve. You must PAY to get the required material. You must PAY to take the tests. You must PAY for the certification. MVP is a gift. There are no explicit requirements and there is no exchange of currency. This is the CLEAR difference between certifications and gifts like MVP. > Titles based on criteria that has been successfully met, as in MVP or > Cisco Certified, etc., has no ethical issues. It is an earned title > that denotes an area of expertise. It is up to those who view the > title to determine if the criteria for getting the title warrants a > level of trust and respect. > > Personal gifts from vendors that you make purchasing decisions > regarding is unethical. > > Rules of ethics are necessary in this business. > > Ceaselessly arguing in order to have the last word is poor use of > brain power, poor use of this list and poor use of ethics. Anyone > whose priority is to *always* win the "fight" must sacrifice the truth > and good judgment, thereby violating basic ethics. > > Just another opinion :-) > > Best Regards,=20 > > Dan Bartley > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:24 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics > > I got to the first paragraph in your post and pretty much quit > reading.=20 _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
