If you're just getting [EMAIL PROTECTED], I think you're screwed. If it's the same e-mail addresses, primarily caused by ex-employees, then use the Black Hole.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t
Black hole means I need to know every mailbox-so far, there's about
50, and that # is growing.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t
Black Hole means it won't send an NDR.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 3:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can't
From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to
do what I was originally looking to do: Either reject outright a
message without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message
without a mailbox.
This seems to be what I am hearing? Is this correct?
The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I
wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender.
Steve Jacobson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?
Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your
workload/aggravation quotient.
-----Original Message-----
From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?
That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone
else -
theoretically still busy....)
Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today. Is
this a
good thing? :-)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?
>
> Because if I create a "Black Hole" I/we don't have to do anything...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?
>
>
> why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add
those
> smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 17 October 2001 15:56
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange
5.5?
>
>
>
> if you think it's subscriptions, then you can try to
unsub
> them. I've had some success doing so. Sometimes you have to view
the
> source document, and cut/paste the url.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toni, Randy [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:06 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange
5.5?
>
>
> me too. In a previous post I asked if a message could
be
> rejected if it had
> a bogus username (no NDR, no nothing - just kill it in
the
> initial SMTP
> conversation). The kind folks here informed me
recently
> that Exchange will
> only check the domain and not "really" check the
entire
> address against the
> GAL (although I think the docs on securing an Exchange
relay
> are a bit
> ambiguous in that regard), so the fake username gets
in.
> I'm trying to find
> the time to evaluate some content inspection
products -
> hopefully one of
> them will be able to look at the Exchange userlist and
drop
> incoming based
> on that criteria.
>
> It is nice for legit users to get an NDR - God knows
how
> many honest typo's
> are made every day. But it would be cool if you could
tell
> your IMS to
> track NDR's and if enough are going back to the same
sending
> domain or
> server, maybe start to drop any incoming from them (or
> someting like
> that...). That way legit NDR's would go out to the
legit
> senders, but the
> flood of NDR's to these junker systems could be
killed. In
> other words,
> AFAIK a lot more control over handling
non-deliverables at
> the server would
> be great.
>
> randy
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Jacobson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: October 17, 2001 9:57 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in
Exchange
> 5.5?
> >
> > I am receiving messages, directed to my Exchange
server
> that are in my
> > domain name (dji.com), but have no corresponding
mailbox
> on the
> > system.
> >
> > Yes, I have secured Exchange against open relay.
> >
> > My suspicion is that someone (single or multiple
people)
> are
> > registering with opt-in (or out) commercial sites
that
> send out
> > periodic newsletters, using some phony mailboxes
(although
> some
> > addresses look real (i.e. kimokran) into my domain
> (@dji.com).
> >
> > Since I administer the site, and have set the
> administrator account to
> > intercept all bounced messages, I see these in the
> administrator's
> > mailbox. I also see a bounced NDR when the reply-to
> address in the
> > spam message is phony.
> >
> > I get a couple of hundred of these messages per day.
> >
> > I have thought about a unix box, but I'd rather not
get
> into that
> > right now because of the additional hardware expense
and
> time
> > commitment. An open-source mail server that runs on
Win2K
> might be
> > the answer if it had the capability I need.
> >
> > I would really like some way of rejecting a
non-delivered
> message
> > during it's initial transmission to the server, or
if that
> is not
> > possible, to simply purge the message from the input
queue
> and not
> > send an NDR back to the sender.
> >
> > Steve Jacobson
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 9:05 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange
5.5?
> >
> >
> > What do you mean by "non-existent mail boxes on my
> system"? Are they
> > your
> > domain name or someone else's?
> > Have you secured against open relay?
> > <
> <http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696>>
> > also available here:
> > <
> <http://downloads.members.tripod.com/ladysun1969/misc/relay.tif>>
> >
> > That said, I think that according to RFCs,
everything is
> working the
> > way
> > it's supposed to work. I don't know of any 3rd
party
> filtering tools
> > that
> > don't cost an arm & a leg. However, if this is
really
> important to
> > you,
> > perhaps you should set up some sort of Unix box to
handle
> your SMTP
> > mail -
> > many Unix SMTP mail programs are infinitely
configurable
> for blocking
> > mail.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > -Michèle
> > Immigration site: <
<http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>>
> > Our new 2001 Miata: <
> <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>>
> > Tiggercam: < <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with
> diarrhea - massive,
> > difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining,
and a
> source of
> > mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least
expect
> it. - Gene
> > Spafford,1992
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Jacobson [
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:52 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: How can you reject messages in Exchange
5.5?
> >
> >
> > I am currently running an Exchange 5.5 (SP4) with
about 12
> mailboxes.
> >
> > I get tons (couple of hundred) of spam messages
addressed
> to
> > non-existent mail boxes on my system. I would like
> somehow to reject
> > these messages before they get in the input queue.
If
> this isn't
> > possible, I would like Exchange to just throw them
away
> and not send
> > an NDR back to the originator.
> >
> > Are these possible to do with Exchange 5.5, and if
so,
> how?
> >
> > I am a small shop and cannot afford the big $ for
e-mail
> filtering
> > programs. Are there any inexpensive add-on programs
that
> would help
> > me out?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Steve Jacobson
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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