Well, based on not using eseutil without reason, you're a fine admin.

Use of the utility is the exception (major mailbox migration, deleteion of
lots of data) not the rule (regular use).

I would even say, regular use of the utility is the opposite of maintenance.
Yes, it has it's place.

William



-----Original Message-----
From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


When did this happen? Did I miss something? When did this become regular
maintance? What problem does it prevent/solve?

I have not done a offline defrag in over two years. Do I know how to do one
yes, will I do one in the next two years, probably not. 

Am I a bad admin. Who knows?

ellery 





-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Er, are we exchange admins or users...?

Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task, and if your DB fills
the disk at any time youll be jumping through very similar hoops to recover
your exchange box.

Like always - never make a change or perform any task of significance
without being 110% sure of having a valid backup (im paranoid - I always
make sure I have two.)  Building an exchange box and recovering the info
stores should take no where near a weekend if your DRP policies are accurate
and tested (and of course they are!)

Additionally information regarding using eseutil to defrag priv.edb is
freely available in technet - MS dont suppose it to to complex a task that
you should contact PSS to find out how to do it.

A list like this is not going to be very useful to people if we all
mollycoddle each other and choose what information we disseminate based on
our audiences supposed intelligence level.

my $0.02



-----Original Message-----
From: John O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Very Good Advice.  I spent the entire weekend rebuilding my exchange from
back up and using eseutil before finding out just how dangerous this
actually was.  I came througn unscathed, but it was my wild irish luck that
got me through it not my brains.



-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Do we really want to be suggesting that without directing them to PSS?

I might run it and you might run it, but what if this guy isn't as savvy as
we are and he breaks his server?

Eseutil is a dangerous tool that should only be used when extremely
necessary. Personally, I'd leave it the way it is.  When you hire more
people and you receive more email that white space in the database is just
going to fill up anyway.  Let exchange run its course and you will be a
happy admin.  Start mucking around with utilities you know little about and
you nor your boss will be very happy.

D

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Normal behaviour.  You need to do an offline defrag, i.e. eseutil.

Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Nykolyshyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 18 October 2001 14:49
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Database size
Subject: Database size


After deleting hundreds of old accounts, the "priv.edb" actually grew in
size.  Any insights?

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