Thanks Pat.......

So the limit is 16 GB for the priv, and 16 for the pub.edb for a total or 32
GBs?

Correction, seems like all the wieght <9+ GB> resides in the IMCDATA dir?

Is this normal? And this IMC<Internet Mail Connector> dir data does NOT
count twords the 16 GB limit right?

Thanks,

Howie.......<Novice Exchange admin, thats why I'm here!>




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-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Smallwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 5:30 PM
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Subject: RE: Eseutil


See http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q185/4/57.ASP

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> Ok.......thanks.....but.......:)
> 
> What exact files make up this limitation?
> 
> priv + pub.edb and or dir.edb? Others?
> 
> Those 3 only wiegh in at 3 GB on my system, but the mdbdata dir is over 9
> GB, does he limitation count this as well? And is this normal?
> 
> Thanks,
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> Howie
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mood, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:23 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Eseutil
> 
> 
> 16GB for standard 16TB for Enterprise.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:50 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Eseutil
> 
> 
> What is the Exchange 5.5 IS limit?
>  
> 12 GB or 14?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Howie
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:10 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Eseutil
> 
> 
> I concur.
> I have only used it once in my career, and that was for fun on a box I was
> about to retire.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:17 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Eseutil
> 
> 
> Not to use!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dimitri Limanovski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:13 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Eseutil
> 
> 
> So what is the best practice with defragmentation? 
> MS says that "ESEUITL is not considered a tool for regular maintenance and
> should only be used in case of emergency after contacting Microsoft
> Technical Support". On the other hand, there're people here that use it on
> monthly basis!
> So, to use or not to use?
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kopec, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:41 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Eseutil
> 
> 
> This statement is NOT entirely accurate.  Try the following syntax and you
> can direct wherever you want including mapped drives.  For example,
> C:\exchsrver/bin>eseutil /d /ispriv /tf:\tempedb.edb.  Notice, there is no
> space between the /t and the drive you wish to defrag on.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 9:23 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Eseutil
> 
> 
> I'm not familiar with E2K, but on 5.5 I regularly (read monthly) run
> eseutil.  I run it because that is the ONLY way to regain space in the
> Exchange DB that has been freed up by messages being deleted etc.  If I
did
> not do this on a regular basis I would hit the Exchange 5.5 IS limit.
>  
> I would guess that it would be /t f:/tempedb.edb   or what ever you plan
to
> use for the defrag.  It may not work, it doesn't work in 5.5 when you try
to
> redirect the temp database, it must run on the same physical drive that it
> is stored.
>  
> Good luck.
> Sherry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 7:34 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Eseutil
> 
> 
> Why do you need to defrag the IS? Has MS told you to do this?
> eseutil is a tool that if you are not familiar with, you shouldn't be
using.
> Now tell us why you want to do it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Irfan GM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:19 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Eseutil
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Hi 
> 
>  How do I use the /t switch with eseutil , i need to defrag the database
and
> there is not enogh storage space 
>  in C: , where exchange 2000 is loaded. 
> 
>  Thanks 
>  Irfan 
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> size=2>Ok.......thanks.....but.......<SPAN 
> class=479571120-30102001>:)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
> <P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>What exact files make up this 
> limitation?</FONT></P>
> <P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>priv + pub.edb and or dir.edb?
> Others?</FONT></P>
> <P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Those 3 only wiegh in at 3 GB on
my
> system, but the mdbdata dir is over 9 GB, does he limitation count this as
> well?&nbsp;<SPAN class=479571120-30102001>A</SPAN>nd is this
normal?</FONT></P>
> <P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks,</FONT></P>
> <P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Howie</FONT></P></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Howie Pince</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Network Administrator</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A+, MCSE 2000</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Higher Dimension Research Inc.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
>
href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>651-256-1987</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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> <BLOCKQUOTE>
>   <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
>   size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Mood, Steve 
>   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 31, 2001
12:23
>   PM<BR><B>To:</B> MS-Exchange Admin Issues<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
>   Eseutil<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV><SPAN class=209401918-31102001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>16GB
>   for standard 16TB for Enterprise.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>   <BLOCKQUOTE>
>     <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
>     size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Howie Pince 
>     [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 31, 2001
12:50
>     PM<BR><B>To:</B> MS-Exchange Admin Issues<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
>     Eseutil<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV><SPAN class=514134917-30102001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
>     size=2>What is the Exchange 5.5 IS limit?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>     <DIV><SPAN class=514134917-30102001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
>     size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><SPAN class=514134917-30102001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>12
>     GB&nbsp;or 14?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>     <DIV><SPAN class=514134917-30102001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
>     size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><SPAN class=514134917-30102001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
>     size=2>Thanks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>     <DIV><SPAN class=514134917-30102001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
>     size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><SPAN class=514134917-30102001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
>     size=2>Howie</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Howie Pince</FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Network Administrator</FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A+, MCSE 2000</FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Higher Dimension Research
Inc.</FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
>
href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A></FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>651-256-1987</FONT></DIV>
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>       <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
>       size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Martin Blackstone
>       [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday,
October
>       31, 2001 11:10 AM<BR><B>To:</B> MS-Exchange Admin 
>       Issues<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Eseutil<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
>       <DIV><SPAN class=291510917-31102001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>       size=2>I concur.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>       <DIV><SPAN class=291510917-31102001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>       size=2>I have only used it once in my career, and that was for fun
on a
>       box I was about to retire.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>       <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>         <DIV></DIV>
>         <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr
align=left><FONT
>         face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Don
Ely
>         [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday,
October 31,
>         2001 8:17 AM<BR><B>To:</B> MS-Exchange Admin
Issues<BR><B>Subject:</B>
>         RE: Eseutil<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
>         <DIV><SPAN class=550341816-31102001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>         size=2>Not to use!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>         <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>           <DIV></DIV>
>           <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr
align=left><FONT
>           face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
Dimitri
>           Limanovski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
<BR><B>Sent:</B>
>           Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:13 AM<BR><B>To:</B> MS-Exchange
Admin
>           Issues<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Eseutil<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
>           <DIV><SPAN class=338041016-31102001><FONT face=Verdana size=2>So
what
>           is the best practice with defragmentation? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>           <DIV><SPAN class=338041016-31102001><FONT face=Verdana size=2>MS
says
>           that "ESEUITL is not considered a tool for regular maintenance
>           and&nbsp;should only be used in case of emergency after
contacting
>           Microsoft Technical Support". On the other hand, there're people
here
>           that use it on monthly basis!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>           <DIV><SPAN class=338041016-31102001><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>So, to
>           use or not to use?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>           <DIV><SPAN class=338041016-31102001><FONT face=Verdana 
>           size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
>           <BLOCKQUOTE>
>             <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma
>             size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Kopec, David
>             [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 31,
2001
>             10:41 AM<BR><B>To:</B> MS-Exchange Admin
Issues<BR><B>Subject:</B>
>             RE: Eseutil<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
>             <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
>             class=338033715-31102001>This statement is NOT entirely 
>             accurate.&nbsp; Try the following syntax and you can direct
wherever
>             you want including mapped drives.&nbsp; For example,
<STRONG><FONT
>             size=3>C:\exchsrver/bin&gt;eseutil /d /ispriv 
>             /tf:\tempedb.edb</FONT></STRONG>.&nbsp; Notice, there is no
space
>             between the /t and the drive you wish to defrag 
>             on.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
>             <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma
>             size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Abercrombie,
>             Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday,
October
>             31, 2001 9:23 AM<BR><B>To:</B> MS-Exchange Admin 
>             Issues<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Eseutil<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
>             <DIV><SPAN class=775090314-31102001><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff
>             size=2>I'm not familiar with E2K, but on 5.5 I regularly (read
>             monthly) run eseutil.&nbsp; I run it because that is the ONLY
way to
>             regain space in the Exchange DB that has been freed up by
messages
>             being deleted etc.&nbsp; If I did not do this on a regular
basis I
>             would hit the Exchange 5.5 IS limit.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>             <DIV><SPAN class=775090314-31102001><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff
>             size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
>             <DIV><SPAN class=775090314-31102001><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff
>             size=2>I would guess that it would be /t
f:/tempedb.edb&nbsp;&nbsp;
>             or what ever you plan to use for the defrag.&nbsp; It may not
work,
>             it doesn't work in 5.5 when you try to redirect the temp
database,
>             it must run on the same physical drive that it is 
>             stored.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>             <DIV><SPAN class=775090314-31102001><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff
>             size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
>             <DIV><SPAN class=775090314-31102001><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff
>             size=2>Good luck.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>             <DIV><SPAN class=775090314-31102001><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff
>             size=2>Sherry</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>             <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>               <DIV></DIV>
>               <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr 
>               align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original 
>               Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Martin Blackstone 
>               [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 
>               Wednesday, October 31, 2001 7:34 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
MS-Exchange
>               Admin Issues<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
Eseutil<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
>               <DIV><SPAN class=468453213-31102001><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff
>               size=2>Why do you need to defrag the IS? Has MS told you to
do
>               this?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>               <DIV><SPAN class=468453213-31102001><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff
>               size=2>eseutil is a tool that if you are not familiar with,
you
>               shouldn't be using. Now tell us why you want to do 
>               it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>               <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>                 <DIV></DIV>
>                 <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr 
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>                 Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Irfan GM 
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>                 eseutil , i need to defrag the database and there is not
enogh
>                 storage space</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;in
C: ,
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