RE: Eseutil

[Lefkovics, William]

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Your logic is still flawed.   >> regaining 2 GB worth of space is worthy of running eseutil on a monthly basis.   1) The space you think you are recovering is getting used up again anyway.  If the numbers you indicate are consistent, then your priv.edb would actually REMAIN the same physical file size on the hard drive and it would be happy as a lamb.   >>to keep Exchange running 24/7 it is a necessary procedure.   2) Obviously it isn't.  You shut the thing down for hours a month.  Mine haven't been down for more than two hours total in the last 3 years.    But it works for you.....       -----Original Message----- From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil I suppose I should have been a little more informative.  I do delete a large amount of data on a weekly basis using the Mail Box Manager.  On average, it deletes about half a GB of space per week, so in my situation, regaining 2 GB worth of space is worthy of running eseutil on a monthly basis.  We have 1 Saturday a month that management has giving us for "Network Maintenance" were we have a 12 hour window of doing whatever we want to maintain our network.  Installing SP's, new software, replacing hardware etc.  So, in my environment of being stuck with Exchange 5.5 Standard, not being able to upgrade and not having the enterprise edition, to keep Exchange running 24/7 it is a necessary procedure. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Schnoll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Eseutil Well, to be more specific....   Exchange's online defragmentation is great for defragmenting and reclaiming white space; however, this process does not reduce the size of the database file.  So, if you move a large amount of data from your databases (e.g., you purge a whole lot of messages; you move a whole lot of mailboxes; etc.) then performing an offline defragmentation using ESEUTIL is completely acceptable maintenance that does not need the hand-holding or blessing of PSS to perform.   If you aren't move large amounts of data out of your databases, and you aren't running into any storage limitations (e.g., because you are running Standard or because you're running out of disk space), then running ESEUTIL won't provide much, if any, benefits.   So, whether or not this is a regular maintenance tool really depends on your environment.  For the large majority of Exchange orgs, it probably won't be a regular maintenance tool.   My $.02. -- Regards,   Scott Schnoll     ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: RE: Eseutil Only use it if you are directed to by PSS, or if you are using the standard edition of Exchange 5.5 and are running into the 16GB limit.  Exchange handles online defrag quite well so there should be no need to run and offline defrag unless you are running into the 16GB limit on Standard Edition. -----Original Message----- From: Dimitri Limanovski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil So what is the best practice with defragmentation? MS says that "ESEUITL is not considered a tool for regular maintenance and should only be used in case of emergency after contacting Microsoft Technical Support". On the other hand, there're people here that use it on monthly basis! So, to use or not to use?   -----Original Message----- From: Kopec, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil This statement is NOT entirely accurate.  Try the following syntax and you can direct wherever you want including mapped drives.  For example, C:\exchsrver/bin>eseutil /d /ispriv /tf:\tempedb.edb.  Notice, there is no space between the /t and the drive you wish to defrag on. -----Original Message----- From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 9:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil I'm not familiar with E2K, but on 5.5 I regularly (read monthly) run eseutil.  I run it because that is the ONLY way to regain space in the Exchange DB that has been freed up by messages being deleted etc.  If I did not do this on a regular basis I would hit the Exchange 5.5 IS limit.   I would guess that it would be /t f:/tempedb.edb   or what ever you plan to use for the defrag.  It may not work, it doesn't work in 5.5 when you try to redirect the temp database, it must run on the same physical drive that it is stored.   Good luck. Sherry -----Original Message----- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil Why do you need to defrag the IS? Has MS told you to do this? eseutil is a tool that if you are not familiar with, you shouldn't be using. Now tell us why you want to do it. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm