We use Unix (Solaris) mail relays (touching the internet), then pass incoming and outgoing mail through Tumbleweed's MMS for virus scanning, cleaning, S/MIME proxying & content filtering - then our internal mail systems (not exchange).
Matt Moore wrote: > those folks don't follow the same rules as DOD. > Matt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Busick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:41 PM > Subject: RE: Exchange SMTP Routing > > > And we all know how secure uncle is: > > > > http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/01/11/09/011109hnflunk.xml > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:08 PM > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > Subject: Re: Exchange SMTP Routing > > > > > > > > > all of your points are very good yet moot. The only way you > > > can be totally > > > secure is if they are not attached to the internet in any way > > > shape or form > > > and there are no machines attached to the network with > > > removable drives or > > > media. It comes from uncle sams secure network policies. > > > uncle sam won't > > > use nt for a secure server period. Haven't been involved for > > > a few years > > > but that was gospel. > > > Matt > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Drewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:49 PM > > > Subject: RE: Exchange SMTP Routing > > > > > > > > > > and the skill of the administrator doing the setting. > > > > > > > > -- Drew > > > > ******************************** > > > > Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! > > > > "Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great > > > > intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality > > > for those who > > > seek to > > > > change a world that yields most painfully to change." - > > > Robert Kennedy > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:39 PM > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > Subject: RE: Exchange SMTP Routing > > > > > > > > > > > > That would depend which Unix server you set up. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:36 PM > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > Subject: RE: Exchange SMTP Routing > > > > > > > > > > > > I concur. It is all about who is running it. > > > > If I setup a Unix server today, the thing would be about as > > > secure as a > > > > house with no doors or windows, but the holes in the wall for them. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:29 PM > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > Subject: RE: Exchange SMTP Routing > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want to show me documentation for that, I'll happily > > > read it. It > > > > won't change my opinion that NT is just as secure as UNIX, if you > > > > administer it properly. > > > > > > > > -- Drew > > > > ******************************** > > > > Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! > > > > The War on Terrorism Needs a Marshall Plan: > > > > http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=11766 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Lathrum Matt-P55173 > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:20 PM > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > Subject: RE: Exchange SMTP Routing > > > > > > > > > > > > If this is true, then why does Microsoft themselves use > > > UNIX for their > > > > SMTP firewalls? But we digress away from the charter of this list. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Matt Lathrum > > > > General Dynamics Decision Systems > > > > When cryptography is outlawed, > > > > bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:08 PM > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > Subject: RE: Exchange SMTP Routing > > > > > > > > I agree - without exception. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:44 PM > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > Subject: RE: Exchange SMTP Routing > > > > > > > > > > > > NT Servers can be just as secure as Unix servers, if you apply the > > > > proper patches. You do apply the proper patches, don't you? > > > > > > > > -- Drew > > > > ******************************** > > > > Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! > > > > TEN THINGS YOU CAN DO TO PREVENT WAR > > > > http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=11597 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Lathrum Matt-P55173 > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:37 PM > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > Subject: RE: Exchange SMTP Routing > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you sure you want to put NT machines on the firewall? Shouldn't > > > > there be UNIX machines there for better security? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Matt Lathrum > > > > General Dynamics Decision Systems > > > > When cryptography is outlawed, > > > > bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:53 AM > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > > Subject: Exchange SMTP Routing > > > > > > > > Currently we run; > > > > > > > > Exchange 5.5 SP4 > > > > WinNT4.0 Sp 6A > > > > > > > > We also currently have our mail routed to us and > > > scanned\filtered by an > > > > outside company which costs $$. We are looking at building a server > > > > that just does SMTP relay\filtering\scanning and put it in > > > our DMZ. We > > > > are also looking at putting Trend virus scanning on the box > > > so that our > > > > mail is scanned by two different AntiVirus companies before > > > delivered to > > > > the users desktops. Our logic behind this is sometimes > > > Trend comes out > > > > with a pattern a little quicker than Symantec, so we do > > > both. We also > > > > do attachment filtering with Norton For Exchange. > > > > > > > > I guess I have a couple of questions about this; > > > > > > > > 1. What is everyone else using for SMTP relay. What > > > software, location > > > > of server, etc. > > > > > > > > 2. What is the best SMTP relay software\hardware? Should I just use > > > > another install of Exchange on a regular server`? > > > > > > > > Any suggestions or relevant web sites will be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Shawn > > > > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > > > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > > > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > > > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > > > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > > > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > > > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > > > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > > > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > > > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm "WorldSecure Server <safeway.com>" made the following annotations on 11/12/01 15:40:57 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the Safeway corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. 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