Don’t you mean the other way around, that they have to come from your
domain. And or be in your domains IP range. You MTA has to be able to
send to anyone. It is a matter of who can send. And what they have to do
to send.

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


-----Original Message-----
From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 5:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Relaying - background?


Isn't it more of a domain restriction than a user restriction?  I close
the realyin on mydomain.com, you telnet to my box and try to send to
somwhere other than mydomain.com and you're restricted.  I could easily
be wrong.

J

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:59 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Relaying - background?


Non open Relaying requires a user to login to the server, have an
account on the server and have rights to that account. So only Joe can
send email from Joe, when Joe is logged in as Joe. The other method is
to restrict based on Ip so Joe can only send email if he lives on a
10.0.0.x ip range else he can't sent nothing.

Open relay means the server does not care it will send anything from
anyone. Joe can send messages from sally to anyone he wants to. The
server is purely a MTA. 

Does that help?

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Relaying - background?


Recently one of my users forwarded me a couple of NDR messages she got,
containing stuff like "recipient name is not recognized", "550",
"Relaying denied", "user unknown".  Our Exchange 5.5/SP3 server is not
an open relay, and we are cool with all the ORDB & ~ databases, FWIW.

This got me wondering about how relaying really works.  I know that
incoming mail destined for addresses in our domain go to our server,
identified by the MX record in our ISP's DNS tables.  I know that
outgoing mail from our server goes to a mail server at our ISP, which
forwards it to other servers in the appropriate domains - but I don't
know how our server knows which mail server at our ISP to send stuff to.
Our IMS is set up to use DNS for message delivery, not to forward to a
specific host.

Another part I don't understand is how SPAM works - if our server was an
open relay, how would a spammer send messages to our server, but have
them addressed to recipients in a different domain?  I.e. where is the
separate information on mail server to send to and ultimate recipient?

I've dug around some in Technet and various knowledge bases, but haven't
been able to find any illuminating background on how relaying and
spamming works.  I'd love to read up on it, if anyone has a pointer to a
relevant article.

TIA & have a nice weekend!

Bob Peitzke


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