Yea, that's what I am going to wind up doing. I will bring a W2K laptop
and install the Exadmin on it. Will this work on W2K pro or does it need
to be server? We have TechNet so I wont need a demo to install it. I
would reinstall the tape drive but the idiots can find it so I am stuck
in that situation.

Anyway, some of the logfile have been moved from the Exchange partition
to another and there isn't enough space to put those log files back. I
will have to compress all that I can to get them back on there which is
almost like 2GB. Once I get all the log files in place I will perform
the backup using NTBackup and hopefully this problem will be solved.

As far as who is handling the installation, it is a lost cause. This
company is cheap and doesn't listen to our recommendations. I told them
to purchase the Exchange Agent about 4 months ago when this issue first
arrived. Since it was working they choose to ignore me. I gave them the
alternate solution of using BackupExec which was previously installed on
the box to back up the other server since it already had the Agent. Its
hard working for cheapskates that only care about things when they start
to have problems.

Well let me get to work and see what happens!

-----Original Message-----
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 12:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Circular Logging


Yes, that is correct. 

Run setup, select the admin portion only and NTBackup is replaced with
an
Exchange-aware version.

Heck, in Paul's case, he could download a demo of W2K server, throw it
on a
P133, install exchange5.5 admin, run NTBackup over the wire to disk in a
pinch.

Otherwise, whoever is handling this installation should be replaced.

Just my thoughts.

William


-----Original Message-----
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 6:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Circular Logging


Correct me if I am wrong, that when you install ExAdmin, it makes
Ntbackup Exchange-aware ?  Sorry, William , I have (unfort.) never used
Ntbackup for Exchange backups (always inherited environments)

-----Original Message-----
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 19:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Circular Logging


No.  NTBackup on W2K only will backup to file.

Also, you can install Exchange admin on another box other than the
exchange server to perform this.

William

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 4:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Circular Logging


Can NTBackup on NT 4.0 back up to a file? The system doesn't have a
drive to backup to so NTBackup wont work!

-----Original Message-----
From: Sanborn, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 7:37 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Circular Logging


NTBackup (free with the O/S) would work just fine.  You could even write
up a little bat file to automate it, to a point.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 5:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Circular Logging
Importance: High


Hello All,

I have a question about a current situation that a client of mine is in.
They have an Exchange 5.5 SP2 server which has run out of space! They
originally had a tape drive installed on the server and was using Backup
Exec with the Exchange agent. they had circular logging enabled but it
wasn't a problem because they were backing up every night a the logs
were cleared. Now they recently implemented another server and had
ArcServe installed on it. They didn't want to maintain two backup apps
so they uninstalled BbackupEXec from the Exchange serve and maintained
the ArcServe. The ArcServe doesn't have an Exchange agent installed so
there is no current backup of that server except for any files on it. I
recommended that they get the ArcServe Exchange Agent. 

AnyHoo, a couple of months ago they ran out of space and they called me.
I found out that it was due to not having a recent backup of Exchange
and the logs had taken all available space. At this time, backupexec was
still installed so I performed a backup and the space was cleared and
the server was able to be started again. Now last week they have come
across the same exact issue again and the tape drive has been removed
and BackupExec uninstalled. So all I could do was move some of the log
files to another server and again recommend that they get the ArcServe
Exchange Agent. now, they recently got hit with Goner and there back to
the space issue again. They have finally approved the Exchange agent but
we are waiting for it to be delivered. So right now, the server is down
because Exchange wont start due to lack of drive space. I cannot move
the log files anymore because the prior relocation took up the space on
another volume. I am thinking of disabling circular logging to let the
logs files not take up the space they are currently using. Is this a
wise move? What other options do I have. Any immediate answers would be
greatly appreciated! TIA!!!

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