Maybe he meant have the SQL admins who know their <DonElyWord> Teach you how to do 
exchange backups.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 9:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level Backups


>>Keep your SQL admins the heck away from your Exchange backups!

How do I keep myself from the Exchange backup?  What do you do if/when SQL becomes the 
database engine for Exchange?

William 


-----Original Message-----
From: Cross, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 9:15 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level Backups


  I second that, we recently moved some servers up to one of those data warehouse 
companies and they attempted to use open file manager to backup our Exchange box.  
They swore up and down to me that they could do it without the Agent for NetBackup.  I 
called their bluff and scheduled disaster recovery testing and spent several days 
watching them scratch their heads.  One backup using the agent and a quick restore was 
what it finally took to show the SQL gurus how painless it is when you use the right 
tools.

  Keep your SQL admins the heck away from your Exchange backups!

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level Backups


NIET! Open file manager may be fine for SQL databases, MDB files, but Exchnage is more 
than just a pair of EDB files. There are a lot of actions that are controled 
by/performed by the Exchange agent that an open file manager/open file agent has no 
fricking idea about.

If you are going to use a backup service other than what comes with Exchange, use a 
product that supports Exchange.

Unless you really like explaining why your 10grand system can't restore the CFO's 
budget from last week.

John M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Brick Level Backups


I have seen posts from people stating that Brick Level Backups of Exchange are bad. I 
was just discussing this with a fellow engineer and wanted to find out the reason why 
the Brick Level Backups are bad. What the issues with this type of Backup? If Brick 
level Backups are bad then why purchase an Exchange Agent for whatever backup app 
thats being used when you could just use a Open File Agent which should backup the 
Store & Directory files. Any info would be appreciated. TIA!
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