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-----Original Message----- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 2:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange Excellent <IBM> and <is> thorough <the> reply, <best!> Patrick! >>Now, when I am forced to use the Outlook client, I am feel like something is missing. Please elaborate. Given that Outlook is the most widely used email client in the world, what do you feel is missing? William -----Original Message----- From: Pat Smallwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange <ignore senders email address/client> I am a Notes user, and initially couldn't stand the Client. You are correct, not initially intuitive etc...(trust me, I was pretty excited when I first heard that you can use the Outlook client with the a Notes Server). However, once you become familiar with the functionality and interface, it is actually pretty nice. No, it does not have the trademark MS'ified GUI (go figure!!) For me, I think the hard part of accepting Notes was that I KNEW Outlook, and didn't want to take time to learn the new client. Dont get me wrong, I do not dislike Outlook/Exchange (that's how I make a living). I am on Notes R5. I dont know what version you were primarily hammering, but I actually like it. Now, when I am forced to use the Outlook client, I am feel like something is missing. My mail server has only been down once in two years (that I am aware of) and I have never had to call a help desk on it. (yes, of Course Exchange can also run as long if properly admin'd-maybe even if not!!). I am an Exchange Admin, and only USE Notes, so I am not aware of the technical issues personally. As far as Database functionality, I love that part of Notes now. I guess you could get the same features elsewhere, although I am not sure they would integrate as smoothly. An observation I have made over that past couple years- it seems that a majority of people who demand more than simple messaging are Notes users. I probably (off record) wouldn't recommend Notes to your basic email user (simple text messages) who already has issues understanding Outlook. The learning curve may not be worth it for some end users. That said, I dont know if I could do as much with out Notes. Just my .02 worth...no need for anyone to flame. Nothing above is intended to be blanket statements, just some general thoughts on the subject. </blah blah> Pat P.S Perhaps you could post your Alternative Notes FAQ with Williams Alternative Operating System/Email etc plan when he finishes it ; ) "Lefkovics, William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/09/2002 09:54 AM Please respond to "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange Well. I haven't heard you rant like that since someone mentioned Groupshield. William -----Original Message----- From: Martin Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange I can honestly say that Notes/Domino is without too much doubt the most awful software I have ever had to work with. (I say without *too* much doubt because some days I think GroupShield may hold that honour... it depends which I've had to work with most recently). I worked with Notes and Domino every day - both as an administrator and an end-user - for nearly a year. I found new reasons to hate it every single day. Where should I start? The client is unintuitive, slow, and unreliable. Pretty much every single user interface design error known to software designers is demonstrated somewhere in Notes at least once. The administrative tools make the client look quite well organised and well behaved. The server side components leak memory like it was going out of fashion and appear to merely tolerate running on the same box as Windows rather than integrating with the OS in any sensible way. The security model is over-engineered, over-complex, under-functional, and doesn't integrate with anything useful (users hate having to sign in twice, once for Windows, once for Notes, and who can blame them?). Likewise the directory. I could go on for pages and pages on the cons... one day I'll write up the "Alternative Notes FAQ" that I keep threatening to put on the web. The pros? Well... not too many virus writers have noticed Notes, so you can have an easier time there than with Outlook. Alledgedly, Notes is good for workflow and small databases, but I've yet to see anything done with it that couldn't have been achieved much faster, cheaper and more reliably with MS Office integrated with Exchange. It's a niche market. Before it sinks without a trace (which I'll give three, maybe four years) there is probably going to be good money for people with skills looking after it or - better still - the right skills for migrating people off of it onto Exchange. > -----Original Message----- > From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 08 January 2002 13:17 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > I am very familar with Exchange, but my company currently > uses Domino/Notes > for the client we are doing work for. What (IYHO) are the > pros and cons of > Domino/Notes ? > > TIA- > Dave > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
