Howie, You could just restore the IS and rebuild your DS using the consistency adjuster in Exch. Admin. That way it doesn't matter if the restore server has the same SAM or even the same computer name as the original server. - Mark S.
-----Original Message----- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: January 15, 2002 3:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Ok that will backup the stores, but what if something takes the WHOLE box down? Can't restore the dir.edb without a recovery server, can't create a recovery server with SBS? Will try your suggestion, atleast that would cover it if the store becomes corrupt. Thanks much........ Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com <http://www.superfabric.com/> -----Original Message----- From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Williams solution (Stop Exchange, copy databases) is the cheapest and most effective "dirtbag" way of backing up Exchange with no budget. I highly recommend you stop what you are doing now and try it. Schedule Exchange to stop with the AT command and a batch file. The batch file should copy the databases after Exchange stops and then restart exchange. Remember that Exchange will need a 30 seconds or so to stop. PS Don't be offended by the "Dirtbag" moniker- it's nothing personal. -----Original Message----- From: Howie Pince [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Ya right, and what, send mail? Come on.... We need robust groupware solution. I like the future of Linux, but send mail is weak. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] < mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com < http://www.superfabric.com <http://www.superfabric.com> > -----Original Message----- From: Dawn R. Ashford [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget.. maybe a reference to Linux? -----Original Message----- From: Howie Pince [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I have been running NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running, but what good will that do if I can't restore it to anything? Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget? Last resort won't work either, I can't create a vailid restore server? Thanks for the ideas, but gonna need some more to get somewhere with this situation.... Howie IMHO: SOOO lame that you have to HAVE a "restore" server just to restore a DB? Suppose THAT ALSO has to have it's own License also huh??? -----Original Message----- From: Lefkovics, William [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Preferred: 1) run NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running. or 2) dump SBS Last resort: 2) stop exchange services (net stop MSExchangeSA /y) and copy priv.edb, pub.edb, and dir.edb to a file location References: 3) http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a <http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore. a> sp http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/disaster.asp <http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/disaster.asp> William Lefkovics, MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, A+, ExchangeMVP ----------------------------------------------------------- Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net <http://www.airborne.net> ----------------------------------------------------------- Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Howie Pince [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import <restore> on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. Thanks much in advance.......... 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