ellery july
phone - 651-225-3895
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From: Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence Office Exchange and Bar Code Admn. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA usageWell, that makes sense. If a user's primary computer at work has a CAL and he pops into OWA once in a while from home, the CAL at work covers him (or her).mit freundlichen Grüßen,(Best Regards),
Steve Ropiak
ZF Group NAO
CERT, Exchange and Bar Code Administrator
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From: Wayne Hanks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:22 PM
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Subject: RE: OWA usageLet's begin here by saying that IANAL and that this is not to be taken as legal advice ( ask your Microsoft Licensing rep and get it in writing) but...The following is an extract from the Open Licensing Agreement that I dug out yesterday when talking to Microsoft to get hold of a copy of Outlook 2000."Client Access. Licensee must acquire a separate CAL for MS Exch svr in order to use Microsoft Client Software to Access or otherwise utilize Microsoft Exchange Server and/or to access or otherwise utilize the services of any other electronic mail server software. {the following is the relevant part} Licensee may also use that same CAL for any other digital electronic device that Licensee uses less than 20% of Licensee's total connection time.It goes on to define total connection time but that isn't relevant.The important part here is that you only need CALs for the number of mailboxes that you have configured that are actually accessed by clients logging in and authenticating. If a user uses OWA to access their mailbox all the time, you would require a CAL for that user, but not necessarily a CAL for every computer that they login from.As I said "I am not a Lawyer", but I don't think Microsoft really intended that you should have to have a license for every possible workstation that your users could connect from, only for the number of mailboxes that you have configured on the server that are accessed by your users. However I bet hey wish they could require a license for every machine you login from ;-)
cheers
Wayne Hanks
Systems Administrator
Paterson Ord Minnett
Ph 08 9263 1114 fax 08 9325 1086
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From: Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence Office Exchange and Bar Code Admn. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 25 January 2002 3:16
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Subject: RE: OWA usageI believe your Dell guy is wrong. I've heard from too many software vendors who deal with Microsoft products and licensing all the time that OWA users do need a CAL. If they didn't, you could get away with buying no CAL's by just having everyone use the web interface.mit freundlichen Grüßen,(Best Regards),
Steve Ropiak
ZF Group NAO
CERT, Exchange and Bar Code Administrator
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From: Andy Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:07 PM
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Subject: RE: OWA usageBelow is what my Dell Licensing guy told me.
From Dell:
You don't need a CAL for the remote OWA access, though if the user has
a machine that they are pulling data down to their Outlook directly
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From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 8:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA usageThis is my major complaint is that I have people who travel and they like
going into a local library of internet café and getting their emails, fax,
and voice mails via the net. When my boss was in Europe last year he must
have used 8 different machines. The way I got around it is that I only
give a CAL to a machine while it is in use. Once it is no longer in use and
not located on a laptop or on site for 24 hours the CAL is revoked. At least
that is what is says in my exchange procedure manual and DR plan.Do not quote me and I am not a lawyer but a senior MS local office person
told me that what I am doing is within the scope of the CAL. As long as it
is a written procedure.ellery july
phone - 651-225-3895
-----Original Message-----
From: Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence Office Exchange and Bar Code Admn.
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 6:00 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA usage
Yes, but if each of those users has multiple computers they use to OWA into
your system you licensing is still out of control. What I was thinking I'd
need is some way to monitor (or perhaps lock out) usage by IP address or MAC
address so I'd have some way of demonstrating how many computers are
accessing OWA when the guys with the big red "M" on their chest show up at
my door.mit freundlichen Grüßen,(Best Regards),
Steve Ropiak
ZF Group NAO
CERT, Exchange and Bar Code Administrator
(207) 989-9115 voice
(207) 989-8722 fax
(513) 317-0197 cell
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From: Jeffegg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 6:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OWA usage
We have a global OWAUsers group and only
members of that group can access their email
via OWA. Since the number of OWA users is
less than the number of Non-OWA users this is
not too hard to maintain.--
Jeff Eggleston
=============="Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence Office Exchange
and Bar Code Admn." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote in message news:221397@exchangelist...OK, got the bad news from Microsoft. Every
home user who accesses OWA from
their home PC needs a CAL for my Exchange
5.5 OWA. Problem is, how can I
stop those folks that we don't have a CAL for
from getting in? In theory,
everyone who has a home computer could use
it, but probably few do. Any one
got any ideas on how to monitor / control it?mit freundlichen Grüßen,(Best Regards),
Steve Ropiak
ZF Group NAO
CERT, Exchange and Bar Code Administrator
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(207) 989-8722 fax
(513) 317-0197 cell
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