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-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:09 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits


?  How do you get by the blocking of the exe on the firewall?
 

Regards, 

Mike Mitchell 
Systems eMAIL Administrator 
Alverno Information Services 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Adams, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits


God Idea
 
Post it somewhere so we can dl it... i like that idea.. maybe even reprogram
it to email the admin the poerson computer / userid  so we can see staticly
who is dumb enugh to open files from people they don't know!!!!!
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Bauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits



Jim, 

Can i get a copy of that?  I could use that here! 

Brian Bauer 
Network Administrator 
JAG 
(215) 826-8929 Office 


-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Holmgren [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:35 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits 


We do the same type of thing, in-house.  We wrote a little program that we 
send out as an attachment from time-to-time.  We send it to everyone in the 
company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and we 
include a nice little "pigeon-english" subject, similar to "I send you this 
file to have your advice" ;-).  
If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and lets them 
know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously fzckued up 
the network.  It also logs their username to a text file on one of our 
servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught.  It makes for good 
entertainment on a Friday afternoon. 

-Jim 

Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Network Engineer 
Advertising.com 

We bring innovation to interactive communication. 
Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. 


-----Original Message----- 
From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits 


I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was talking 
about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service out 
there that you can connect to, compose a "tempting" junk mail for your 
users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the "be careful" 
policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding attachment 
anyway.  I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in turn 
e-mail some kind of  a report back to the service (or maybe directly to 
you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it.  This guy 
quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any 
message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by email 
admins. 

I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an attachment from 
an unsupported app... 
user: "I can't open an attachment"  
me: "what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something?" 
user: "I don't know" 
me: "is it something you were expecting from someone?" 
user: "no" 
me: "why are you trying to open it?" 
user: "I just want to see what it is"  
me: "just ignore it" 
user: "but why can't I open it?" 
me: "you're PC doesn't recognize what it is" 
user: "well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and they 
can't open it either" 
me: <sigh> "just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same" 

Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their friends 
are doing the same - aarhgggghhh!  These guys get the sermon on a regular 
basis but it just doesn't sink in.  When I heard about this kind of service 
out there, I thought "this is kind of sneaky (would it even be considered a 
kind of entrapment?)",  but it would clearly demonstrate the problem to the 
managers here.  Someone on another list once made a very wise comment 
(probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to solve 
behavioral problems, but that's not my intent.  I'd like to use technology 
to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it.  The service might give

us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow off 
policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the managers

here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. 

Is this kind of service something very new?  Does anyone know anything about

it?  I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was 
multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) so I got

side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on this.  

thanks 
randy. 


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