I also feel like a schmuck for posting the original question that prompted Jim's generous offer and all the related chatter. Might I suggest as a peace offering to the list (and to Stu) that all those who benefitted from Jim's app (BTW - got it this morning - thanks Jim) take a few seconds to fill out the survey that Stu has recently posted? Just a thought... (hope this is not out-of-line....)
> -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Holmgren [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:38 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits > > I should clarify a few things and restate my offer: > > The file is a simple vbs script that we created. It is freely available > to anyone who PMs me (off-list) for a copy. If you previously emailed me > looking for it, check your mail. I just sent copies to anyone who asked > for it (by mailing me privately) at about 11:35 a.m. (EST) this morning. > > Stu, sorry to use up so much bandwidth on this! > > Thanks - > Jim > > Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Network Engineer > Advertising.com > > We bring innovation to interactive communication. > Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. > > -----Original Message----- > From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:27 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits > > > > Yeah, how can I get this?? > > -----Original Message----- > From: MAE(Mark Edgar) > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:25 AM > To: MHR(Michael Ross) > Subject: FW: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mitchell Mike [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:09 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits > > > ? How do you get by the blocking of the exe on the firewall? > > > Regards, > > Mike Mitchell > Systems eMAIL Administrator > Alverno Information Services > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adams, Shawn [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:22 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits > > > God Idea > > Post it somewhere so we can dl it... i like that idea.. maybe even > reprogram it to email the admin the poerson computer / userid so we can > see staticly who is dumb enugh to open files from people they don't > know!!!!! > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Bauer [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:44 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits > > > > Jim, > > Can i get a copy of that? I could use that here! > > Brian Bauer > Network Administrator > JAG > (215) 826-8929 Office > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Holmgren [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> ] > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:35 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits > > > We do the same type of thing, in-house. We wrote a little program > that we > send out as an attachment from time-to-time. We send it to everyone > in the > company with a forged header to appear to come from elsewhere, and > we > include a nice little "pigeon-english" subject, similar to "I send > you this > file to have your advice" ;-). > If the (l)user runs it, a nice little box pops up on their PC and > lets them > know that they could have just hosed their machine and seriously > fzckued up > the network. It also logs their username to a text file on one of > our > servers, so we can keep tabs on who we caught. It makes for good > entertainment on a Friday afternoon. > > -Jim > > Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Network Engineer > Advertising.com > > We bring innovation to interactive communication. > Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Toni, Randy [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> ] > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:23 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: OT (slightly) - how to test your users e-mail habits > > > I heard a comment on some tech show last week from someone who was > talking > about the dangers of email bombs, and apparently there is a service > out > there that you can connect to, compose a "tempting" junk mail for > your > users, and send it off to see who will actually blow off the "be > careful" > policy at work and just open the message and/or corresponding > attachment > anyway. I assume that when someone opens the attachment, it will in > turn > e-mail some kind of a report back to the service (or maybe directly > to > you?), where you can gather stats on who/how many went for it. This > guy > quoted a stat -- something like 40% of users will typically open any > > message/attachment regardless of policy or the repeated preaching by > email > admins. > > I got a call recently (rather irate user) trying to open an > attachment from > an unsupported app... > user: "I can't open an attachment" > me: "what is it - a word doc or spreadsheet or something?" > user: "I don't know" > me: "is it something you were expecting from someone?" > user: "no" > me: "why are you trying to open it?" > user: "I just want to see what it is" > me: "just ignore it" > user: "but why can't I open it?" > me: "you're PC doesn't recognize what it is" > user: "well, I sent to so-and-so, and what's-her-name, (etc..), and > they > can't open it either" > me: <sigh> "just delete it and I'll tell them to do the same" > > Our users not only dive into the unknown, but they make sure their > friends > are doing the same - aarhgggghhh! These guys get the sermon on a > regular > basis but it just doesn't sink in. When I heard about this kind of > service > out there, I thought "this is kind of sneaky (would it even be > considered a > kind of entrapment?)", but it would clearly demonstrate the problem > to the > managers here. Someone on another list once made a very wise > comment > (probably been said here too) about trying to use technology to > solve > behavioral problems, but that's not my intent. I'd like to use > technology > to raise awareness of the problem - not to solve it. The service > might give > > us a more tangible idea if there are a lot of people here that blow > off > policy and just open everything they get, and it could be up to the > managers > > here to deal with the offending staff appropriately. > > Is this kind of service something very new? Does anyone know > anything about > > it? I wish I could have caught the details of that show but I was > multitasking that day (my 5-year-old took over as highest priority) > so I got > > side-tracked, but I'd like to know if anyone has any thoughts on > this. > > thanks > randy. > > > *********************************************************** > The information transmitted in this email is intended only for > the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may > contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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