Good luck!

Have fun.
One the features I liked about Antigen was that it can use multiple AV scan
engines. ( I know that Tred Micro  probably does too ) so you can continue
to use InoculateIT's engine and sig files along with Norman and McAfee.


Joseph Ambrose
System and Network Manager
The Conference Board
P: 001-212-339-0443
F: 001-212-836-3802
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit our Award Winning Web Site:  www.conference-board.org

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Ken Leyba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, March 22, 2002 2:29 PM
To:     MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:        RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks

I love this name: Kristi Chiffone

She was real helpful and answered my questions.  So I'll be evaluating both
Trend and Sybari.

-----
Ken Leyba
Windows/Exchange System Administrator
California State University Dominguez Hills


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 12:07 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> 
> 
> 
> Which sales person called?
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> -K.Borndale
> IT Manager
> Sybari Software
> 631.630.8569 -direct dial
> 631.439.0689 -fax
> http://www.sybari.com
> "One man's ceiling is another man's floor"
> 
> 
> |---------+---------------------------->
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> |         |           <[EMAIL PROTECTED]|
> |         |           >                |
> |         |                            |
> |         |           03/22/2002 11:53 |
> |         |           AM               |
> |         |           Please respond to|
> |         |           "MS-Exchange     |
> |         |           Admin Issues"    |
> |         |                            |
> |---------+---------------------------->
>   
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
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>   |       To:       "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>                     
>                                         |
>   |       cc:                                                 
>                                                               
>                          |
>   |       Subject:  RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks                
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> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------------------|
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Must be Karma, one of our other admins had Sybari call me.  Unless of
> course
> he's a member of this list and saw my post (I know you're out there).
> 
> -----
> Ken Leyba
> Windows/Exchange System Administrator
> California State University Dominguez Hills
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ambrose, Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 12:33 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> >
> >
> > One word
> >
> > ANTIGEN
> >
> > www.sybari.com
> >
> >
> > Joseph Ambrose
> > System and Network Manager
> > The Conference Board
> > P: 001-212-339-0443
> > F: 001-212-836-3802
> > E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Visit our Award Winning Web Site:  www.conference-board.org
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From:            Ken Leyba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:            Wednesday, March 20, 2002 6:56 PM
> > To:        MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject:         RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> >
> > No, we have A/V.  I'm looking at alternatives to IncoulateIT.
> >
> > -----
> > Ken Leyba
> > Windows/Exchange System Administrator
> > California State University Dominguez Hills
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:54 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> > >
> > >
> > > no anti-virus?????? egads...
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ken Leyba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:49 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> > >
> > >
> > > That's the rub.  We have had no problems with on campus
> > > users.  All of our
> > > Exchange problems have been viruses.  I would have rather
> > > spent the time and
> > > money on a virus wall, content inspection or an alternative
> > > A/V solution.
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Ken Leyba
> > > Windows/Exchange System Administrator
> > > California State University Dominguez Hills
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:40 PM
> > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > Subject: RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have never worked for an .edu [1], but from my experience
> > > > with people who
> > > > have, they often have users that like to test the boundaries
> > > > of security and
> > > > go as far as their IT department allow.  I hope your students
> > > > are not as
> > > > ambitious.
> > > >
> > > > It's great you'll be able to block, say, ftp to Exchange, but
> > > > the other
> > > > holes open up too many opportunities for fun.  Move the
> > > firewall from
> > > > between the users and Exchange to between the internet and
> > > the users.
> > > >
> > > > [1] Hi Jamie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ken Leyba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:35 PM
> > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > Subject: RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > IT.
> > > >
> > > > -----
> > > > Ken Leyba
> > > > Windows/Exchange System Administrator
> > > > California State University Dominguez Hills
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:34 PM
> > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > > Subject: RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The more important firewall is between the internet and your
> > > > > organisation.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is this guy a director of?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Ken Leyba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:32 PM
> > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > > Subject: RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, the clients will use POP/SMTP, IMAP and MAPI.  That
> > > > was my point
> > > > > exactly, we'll have two Swiss Cheese firewalls.  Unless the
> > > > > Cisco PIX can do
> > > > > some kind of magic firewall tricks that I don't know about.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ken
> > > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > Ken Leyba
> > > > > Windows/Exchange System Administrator
> > > > > California State University Dominguez Hills
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:22 PM
> > > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How are you intending these users access the 
> exchange server?
> > > > > > MAPI client
> > > > > > like Outlook?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The holes necessary for your users to communicate with
> > > > > > Exchange are such
> > > > > > that your firewall between the users and Exchange has been
> > > > > > rendered useless.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Ken Leyba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:15 PM
> > > > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > > > Subject: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our director wants us to implement a firewall in front of
> > > > > our Windows
> > > > > > 2000/Exchange 5.5 servers.  Here is what the scenario is:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Internet <--> Users <--> Firewall <--> Exchange
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the Exchange side we have the DC's, Exchange, IMC, OWA,
> > > > > > etc. servers.  On
> > > > > > the public side we have the Windows 98/2000 clients, WINS
> > > > > > server (which is a
> > > > > > whole different issue) and Internet.  There is a firewall
> > > > before the
> > > > > > Internet connection but it is basically useless 
> since nothing
> > > > > > is configured.
> > > > > > On the private side we are to use NAT, since all the servers
> > > > > > except the
> > > > > > backup server will need to be accessed from the outside I
> > > > > > really don't see
> > > > > > what this is buying us.  Basically we are putting a firewall
> > > > > > in front of
> > > > > > Exchange.  We are currently testing the configuration but I
> > > > > > think this may
> > > > > > end up being a nightmare once we begin to change the Windows
> > > > > > 2000 servers
> > > > > > (i.e. Active Directory) IP addresses and DNS settings to
> > > > the private
> > > > > > addresses.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I began by making registry hacks to force the RPC's through
> > > > > > specific ports
> > > > > > but our backbone admin figured out how to configure the PIX
> > > > > > firewall without
> > > > > > me having to make the changes.  Now I'm 
> reinstalling the test
> > > > > > server to see
> > > > > > that it's actually working.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can anyone give me any ammo as to why this is not the way to
> > > > > > do things.  I
> > > > > > have tried to explain but I'm getting nowhere.  I don't
> > > > > know maybe I'm
> > > > > > wrong.  However it seems it would be safer to implement the
> > > > > > firewall at the
> > > > > > internet connection, we seem to be trying to protect
> > > > > > ourselves from our
> > > > > > users.  There would be a lot of politics involved with the
> > > > > > Internet firewall
> > > > > > but it does seem like the way to go.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thx,
> > > > > > Ken
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > Ken Leyba
> > > > > > Windows/Exchange System Administrator
> > > > > > California State University Dominguez Hills
> > > > > >
> > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at:
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> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > >
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> > >
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> >
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