RE: Backup Exec Problem

Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:05:20 -0800

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If you have corruption in the store.. EXMERGE might fail on several mailboxes depending on where the corruption is.
I have experienced this myself and the store would not move 3 mailboxes(out of 250) due to internal corruption. I had to save those out individually(.PST) and then some folders wouldn't download due to same corruption.
 
The good news was that I tried to run ESEUTIL on it afterwards and it came back with a 50meg file once completed.. Basically a blank store.
 
So the destroy and re-create store option maybe your best solution.
-----Original Message-----
From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 1:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Exec Problem

PSS suggested I do a eseutil/p, but they decided to have my exmerge it out, create a new blank db and exmerge it back in
-----Original Message-----
From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 1:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Exec Problem

as soon as the boss comes in and authorizes the 250 I am going to call pss and see what could have caused this.  The server is only three months old.  Then see what they suggest.  I will post what they recommend.  I was looking on tech tips and there are a lot of us in this boat.
 
 

Jim Zangara, MCSE+I
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A Division of Clear Channel Communications
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-----Original Message-----
From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Exec Problem

since we are in the same boat, what are you going to do to fix your corruption?
-----Original Message-----
From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 1:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Exec Problem

ok - Circular logging disabled and you were right Michael - there is a corruption in the priv.edb.  UGH.
 
Offline backup tonight and every night until I can have the system on Saturday for Isenteg.
 
Thanks for all the help guys.  I bet this will solve my problem.
 
 

Jim Zangara, MCSE+I
IT Manager
Special Projects Engineer
Premiere Radio Networks
A Division of Clear Channel Communications
15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500
Sherman Oaks, CA 91403
Direct: (818) 461-8620
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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-----Original Message-----
From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Exec Problem

if you disable circular logging, you can recover from point of failure.. that is why you should turn it off.
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Bullock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Exec Problem

Circular logging:
 
MS seems to think you can flip the switch on or off at leisure.  I have always had it disabled so I couldnt tell you what would happen if I re-enabled it.
 
Matt Bullock
-----Original Message-----
From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Exec Problem

we do backup from a different server - two of them backing up all of my servers individually onto Dell DLT drives.
 
We have been toying with disabling circular first so I guess with 25 gigs I should be able to - but if this does not work I don't want to not have a way back and then have this server get overwhelmed with uncommitted log files.
 
If I disable circular logging can it be re-enabled without much issue?
 
 

Jim Zangara, MCSE+I
IT Manager
Special Projects Engineer
Premiere Radio Networks
A Division of Clear Channel Communications
15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500
Sherman Oaks, CA 91403
Direct: (818) 461-8620
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Bullock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:06 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Exec Problem

Then I guess the next thing I would try would be to disable circular logging.  I have 2 servers running Backup Exec 8, one with a DDS3 and one with a DDS4, neither have circular logging enabled.  The remote agent backup has me worried too.  Are you backing up the exchange database from another server?  That is something I havent tested before.  I always do local backups when it comes to exchange.  Never worked for a company with a large enough store to require anything else.
 
Matt Bullock
(Up the 101 in Westlake)
-----Original Message-----
From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Exec Problem

Did a test backup that was on one one tape - it failed in the exact same place.
 
 

Jim Zangara, MCSE+I
IT Manager
Special Projects Engineer
Premiere Radio Networks
A Division of Clear Channel Communications
15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500
Sherman Oaks, CA 91403
Direct: (818) 461-8620
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Bullock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Exec Problem

Try backing up just the exchange stuff using 1 tape if possible instead of a full backup with multiple tapes. 
-----Original Message-----
From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Backup Exec Problem

Hey Folks - This list has been so helpful I am dipping into the well once again.
 
We are not getting a solid backup of our exchange server.  We have contacted Veritas and done every step they suggested and we have had zero luck.
 
Environment:
Exchange 5.5 sp4 running on Windows 2000K SP2  Circular logging enabled until I can get a solid backup.
Backup Exec 8.5 running on NT 4. SP 6a
Remote agents and Exchange agents installed (and reinstalled ad naseum)
 
It seems to be failing on the logs.  I have a 25 gigs of space on the log drive so I can disable circular but I am concerned of the ramifications of that as well without a solid backup.  I have full access to the server as I CAN do a Brick Level Backup but for obvious reasons would prefer not to.
 
 
TIA for any direction!
 
 
 
 
Here is the output of the log file.  The server name has been changed to protect the innocent.
 
 
 
OFO: Started for device: "\\exchange\C$"
 
Performing Remote Agent backup
 
Media Name: "Media created 3/21/02 10:00:01 PM"
Backup of "\\exchange\C$ "
Backup set #2 on storage media #1
Backup set description: "Exchange"
Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit
Backup started on 3/21/02 at 10:11:16 PM.
 
Backup completed on 3/21/02 at 10:17:12 PM.
Backed up 12718 files in 810 directories.
Processed 1,358,719,818 bytes in  5 minutes and  56 seconds.
Throughput rate: 218.4 MB/min
----------------------------------------------------------------------
OFO: Started for device: "\\exchange\D$"
 
Performing Remote Agent backup
 
Media Name: "Media created 3/21/02 10:00:01 PM"
Backup of "\\exchange\D$ "
Backup set #3 on storage media #1
Backup set description: "Exchange"
Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit
Backup started on 3/21/02 at 10:17:46 PM.
 
Backup completed on 3/21/02 at 10:18:51 PM.
Backed up 368 files in 23 directories.
Processed 306,994,352 bytes in  1 minute and  5 seconds.
Throughput rate: 270.3 MB/min
----------------------------------------------------------------------
OFO: Started for device: "\\exchange\E$"
 
Performing Remote Agent backup
 
Media Name: "Media created 3/21/02 10:00:01 PM"
Backup of "\\exchange\E$ "
Backup set #4 on storage media #1
Backup set description: "Exchange"
Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit
Backup started on 3/21/02 at 10:19:25 PM.
 
Backup completed on 3/22/02 at 1:02:39 AM.
Backed up 15 files in 10 directories.
Processed 35,041,397,882 bytes in  2 hours,  43 minutes, and  14 seconds.
Throughput rate: 204.7 MB/min
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Performing Remote Agent backup
 
Media Name: "Media created 3/21/02 10:00:01 PM"
Backup of "\\exchange\Microsoft Exchange Directory "
Backup set #5 on storage media #1
Backup set description: "Exchange"
Backup Type: FULL - Database & Logs (flush committed logs)
Backup started on 3/22/02 at 1:02:55 AM.
 
Backup completed on 3/22/02 at 1:03:30 AM.
Backed up 1 Exchange Server store(s)
Processed 171,983,118 bytes in  35 seconds.
Throughput rate: 281.2 MB/min
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Performing Remote Agent backup
 
Media Name: "Media created 3/21/02 10:00:01 PM"
Backup of "\\exchange\Microsoft Exchange Information Store "
Backup set #6 on storage media #1
Backup set description: "Exchange"
Backup Type: FULL - Database & Logs (flush committed logs)
Backup started on 3/22/02 at 1:03:30 AM.
 
Drive and media information from media mount:
Changer Name: DELL 1
Drive Name: DELL 1
Media Slot: 5
Media Cartridge Label: DLT032102S5
Targeted Media Set Name: Media4-5
Backup set #6 on storage media #2
The Exchange Store service is not responding. Backup set aborted.
^ ^ ^ ^ ^
 
Backup completed on 3/22/02 at 2:16:04 AM.
Backed up 0 Exchange Server store(s)
Processed 14,865,715,288 bytes in  1 hour,  9 minutes, and  48 seconds.
Throughput rate: 203.1 MB/min
 
 

Jim Zangara, MCSE+I
IT Manager
Special Projects Engineer
Premiere Radio Networks
A Division of Clear Channel Communications
15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500
Sherman Oaks, CA 91403
Direct: (818) 461-8620
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