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-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?


I need something to put my coke cans on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?


so, you want the InoculateIT CD? (heh heh....)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lathrum Matt-P55173 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:10 PM
> To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject:      RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server
necessary?
> 
> Ok! Ok! I got it! I agree! :)
> 
> --
> Matt Lathrum
> General Dynamics Decision Systems        
>              When cryptography is outlawed,
>              bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:50 PM
> To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject:      RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server
necessary?
> 
> I have a copy of InouclateIT Exchange Option you can have if you
> really want to give your Microsoft resident some ammo to support their

> argument ;-)
> 
> Why would you knowingly let a virus in just because it's "easy" to
> clean up? How many PC's/servers/etc will be melting down while you're 
> shutting down Exchange to do the exmerge?  How much of your sensitive 
> data (passwords,
> whatever) could be floating out to wherever by that time?  AV is not 
> foolproof by itself.  Not by a longshot.  His comment is "...when a 
> virus outbreak occurs that actually gets inside...".  Hmmmm... I would

> personally want to be a bit more proactive.
> 
> By the time you discover the virus even exists, it's may not just the
> Exchange server that's toast.  We had a recent incident with an exe 
> file
> (virus) that snuck by the SMTP proxy service (firewall) and got into
the
> Exchange box before the latest AV signatures made it here.  It made it
> into
> 41 mailboxes, oh joy....  Fortunately we hammered it with a trial
version
> of
> a content filtering gateway (a test relay) that used a policy-based
> ruleset
> to strip it as it blew past the broken proxy on it's towards the
> not-yet-updated Exchange server (and ultimately a whole network of
> potentially-not-yet-updated PC's).  We got the AV sig's a couple hours
> later, and even at that point it took some time (not much - but how
much
> does a worm need?) for the sigs to roll out to every PC.  But the test
> relay
> system rendered it useless.  We were lucky.  AV (clients, agents.
etc.)
> and
> the SMTP proxy both failed us.  A trial system saved out butts.  Yeah,
I
> know, having AV agent on the Exchange box did not help in this
specific
> instance, but that's just the point - AV updates (even automated, on
the
> Exchange server, or the desktops, wherever) always have the potential
to
> leave little windows of opportunity for a brand-new and aggressive
worm to
> get in.  You have to plug every hole.  You should be trying to kill it
at
> the gateway, on any relay servers, on the Exchange box, on the
desktops,
> at
> the servers, wherever you can.  
> 
> Defense in depth.  Be proactive.  Don't knowingly turn your back on
> any potential threats.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Lathrum Matt-P55173
> [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:       Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:10 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject:    Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?
> > 
> > Our environment has Trend running on the firewall for anti-virus and
> > content filtering.  We have NAV running on the desktops.  We are
> currently
> > evaluating Antigen and SAVF (Symantec) to put on our E2K Exchange
> servers
> > (including an E2K cluster on a Compaq SAN).  However, our Microsoft
> > resident is suggesting to us that AV on the servers themselves is 
> > not necessary and will only introduce problems and instability 
> > (particularly Symantec's product).  He said that when a virus 
> > outbreak occurs that actually gets inside, a quick ExMerge on the 
> > server is just as effective as pushing out virus defs using the AV 
> > product.
> > 
> > With AV software on the firewall and on the desktops, what do people
> think
> > about not putting AV on the Exchange servers themselves?
> > 
> > --
> > Matt Lathrum
> > General Dynamics Decision Systems        
> >              When cryptography is outlawed,
> >              bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.
> > 
> > 
> > List Charter and FAQ at:
> > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
> 
> List Charter and FAQ at:
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> 
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