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-----Original Message-----
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DCs, Exchange and not recommemnded?


Yea, and Don has finally gotten my Outlook Recall feature to work over on
the Swynk list. Amazing!


-----Original Message-----
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DCs, Exchange and not recommemnded?


So, your geocluster is back on the HCL now?

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 6:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DCs, Exchange and not recommemnded?


Yup. I was walking that line there for awhile.


-----Original Message-----
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DCs, Exchange and not recommemnded?


There's also the notion of remaining 'supported' however.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DCs, Exchange and not recommemnded?


Like everything else however, I prefer my own real life experiences and
wisdom/opinions of people I trust rather than relying on a passage in a book
(not necessarily disagreeing with the statement mind you) - however, in very
small environments, I could easily see an Exchange Server running quite
happily on a BDC. If I were to always rely on Microsoft's opinion, I would
have never installed Antigen 3 years ago.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Friess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DCs, Exchange and not recommemnded?


If you look on page 107, "Defining Your Servers role" in " Microsoft
Exchange Server 5.5 Administrator's Companion", Microsoft press, ISBN
0-7356-0646-3, it clearly states that you should not run your Exchange
Server on a PDC or BDC.

Joe Friess

 -----Original Message-----
From: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DCs, Exchange and not recommemnded?


 
MS Exchange 5.5 Disaster Recovery White Paper for one.  You will cry if the
Exchange server goes down and it is your PDC and there are no BDC's. Even if
it is your BDC, it is still a bad choice.

 -----Original Message-----
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 5:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DCs, Exchange and not recommemnded?


It is written in several places that it is not recommended to put Exchange
on a DC.  There are two primary reasons:
1) performance
2) disaster recovery.

While Exchange certainly can go on a DC, nowhere, NOWHERE does Microsoft
recommend this as the preferred deployment.

Challenge your consultants.  And NAMES!  I want NAMES!



 -----Original Message-----
From: Thompson, Elizabeth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 7:38 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: DCs, Exchange and not recommemnded?


Per prior thread (see messages below) you all mentioned that there is MS
docs that recommend not running Exchange on the DC. Our consultants
recommended to us that we should use exchange on the DC because it was
recommended by MS. Can you point me in the direction of the Docs you
referenced?


Current setup:

total users 1800

site 1
NT 4 PDC
NT 4 BDC
NT 4 EXC 5.5 SP4

site 2
NT 4 BDC
NT 4 EXC 5.5 SP4

site 3
NT 4 BDC
NT 4 EXC 5.5 SP4

Current future plan

site 1
DC with global cat.
DC with EXC 2000

Site 2
DC with EXC 2000

site 3
DC with EXC 2000


Thanks for your directions. At least I now know that there could be some
issues (atleast more then normal upgrade issues)

Elizabeth Thompson
Service and Support Technician
CCBC - Catonsville




 -----Original Message-----
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 4:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange on DC?


I have an Exchange2000 server that's been running on a DC/GC through beta3,
RC1, RC2 and RTM.  No problems.  No unusual funkiness.

The documentation strongly recommends against installing it on a DC. Though,
I'm sure they hate it when customers pull crap like that.


 -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange on DC?


On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, at 1:49pm, Herchenbach, Jim wrote:
> I know it's not recommended, but can Exchange 2k be installed on a DC?

  It will install.  It will even work, sort of.  But, from practical
experience, I can tell you that it does not work well.  We did this with one
of our small customers in a single-server environment.  We figured, "Hey, if
Small Business Server does it, why can't we?"  Well, all sorts of funky
things happened.  Confusing message dialogs, lots of errors in the Event
Log, etc.  Spent a lot of time in the MS PSS Knowledge Base. We even called
PSS on a few issues.  They all resolved to, "You can ignore that; Exchange
will sometimes generate that error in a single-server environment."

  Basically, Microsoft told us Exchange is not designed to run on an Domain
Controller.  Not in so many words, but that is what it amounted to.  I got
the distinct impression that the only reason it is supported at all is that
otherwise, they would not be able to sell Small Business Server, and
Microsoft management will not allow that.

  I hate it when companies pull crap like that.

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 -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Balen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange on DC?



This depends on the size of your org and the amount of traffic generated.
Say a 50 user org - with a nice juicy box (at least a dual p-4 with 4 gigs
of
ram)
sure you could run e2k on a dc, and even get away with running owa on it.

 -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INTERNET

Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:50 PM
To: Balen, Steve B - Raleigh, NC; [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
INTERNET
Subject: RE: Exchange on DC?


Can be.....

But I hear horror stories

 -----Original Message-----
From: Herchenbach, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange on DC?

I know it's not recommended, but can Exchange 2k be installed on a DC?

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