It ain't come yet ;-) --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK
> -----Original Message----- > From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 03 July 2002 16:16 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: McAfee The final Results. > > > Do I smell a www.clarksupport.com/whynotmcafee.htm coming? > > Steve Clark > Clark Systems Support, LLC > AVIEN Charter Member > "Who's watching your network?" > www.clarksupport.com > 301-610-9584 voice > 240-465-0323 Efax > > The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark > Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged > information and > shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others > without the prior > written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:19 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: McAfee The final Results. > > Wow! Now there is a wonderful reference for McSlapme. I think > CA should buy > them. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Majetic, John RAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:10 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: McAfee The final Results. > > > Well as I have stated before, when we first bought McAfee we > did exactly > that, we bought it, with three years of upgrade, and support > options. I > think we paid about 8K total for 19 servers, and 300 users. > > In three years McAfee called, and said we had to pay up, or > take all the > software off of our PCs. They said we only leased the > software, not bought > it. I faxed them the original contract, and no where in it > was the word > lease. They said it didn't matter. I told them to put it > where the sun don't > shine, and started looking for other vendors. > > The called both my boss, and the president, and basically > said if we did not > pay up in two weeks, the would report us a software pirates. > My boss caved, > and officially put us in a leasing arrangement. It was 7K for > 8 servers, and > 180 users, and it only covered us for 2 years. We had sold > off a division, > so our user and server base went down to those numbers. > > Seriously half the users, and half the servers, for 1/3 less > time, and it's > only 1K cheaper! Can you say bend over? > > When they called this time I didn't even ask the price I just > told them to > stuff it. They tried to do the same thing, and say they would > report us a > pirates. > > I would not do business with them if they were the last > anti-virus company > in the world. > > John Majetic > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:04 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: McAfee The final Results. > > > I think the key phrase is "last time we paid". We have about the same > number of users and they wanted something like $15k to renew > our licensing. > Our original pricing was comparable to yours. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Majetic, John RAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:52 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: McAfee The final Results. > > > I priced it out at CDW before my parent company bought it for all > subsidiaries worldwide. The Trend Neat Suite, which includes, Client, > Server, and Exchange versions, along with some other goodies, > was about > $7887 Plus $2000 a year for maintenance for 250 users through CDW. > > I think we paid about $8k for two years of McAfee last time > we paid, by > comparison. > > John Majetic > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 5:32 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: McAfee The final Results. > > > can you buy trend from any software var (insight,cdw)? what > sort of pricing > structure can you get. I have about 600 mailboxes. > I like stirring up this nest because it makes my job easier > to go upwards > and get the ok to change from groupshield. > > dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:40 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: McAfee The final Results. > > > Personally I use Trend. I have always had excellent > experiences with it. > I demo'd anitgen and while it is a great program, I found the > interface to > be kludgy. Also the fact that I have to enter the file > extensions one at a > time did not please me. > > Frankly, both are excellent products and you cant go wrong > with eihter. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:35 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: McAfee The final Results. > > > Antigen. > > No comments from AB on this. > > Steve Clark > Clark Systems Support, LLC > AVIEN Charter Member > "Who's watching your network?" > www.clarksupport.com > 301-610-9584 voice > 240-465-0323 Efax > > The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark > Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged > information and > shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others > without the prior > written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 5:07 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: McAfee The final Results. > > Yea I have to ask that question too just cause. I know the default is > programs only. But hopefully this fall I am moveing away from > mcafee to one > of the two that most people mention for exchange. BWT which > is better trend > or antigen? > > dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:16 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: McAfee The final Results. > > > Was McAfee set to scan all files on the PC originally before the move? > > Steve Clark > Clark Systems Support, LLC > AVIEN Charter Member > "Who's watching your network?" > www.clarksupport.com > 301-610-9584 voice > 240-465-0323 Efax > > The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark > Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged > information and > shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others > without the prior > written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Majetic, John RAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 5:07 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: McAfee The final Results. > > Well I just got done replacing McAfee VirusScan with Trend > OfficeScan on all > my desktops, and I thought I would post the results here. > > Trend found 22 out of 84 computers had a virus on them despite having > VirusScan with up to date (4209) data files installed on > them. They were all > set up to check for new dats automatically. Most had multiple > infections, > with one even having 6 different viruses on it. 90 percent of > the viruses > were Outlook based email viruses that somehow got through > GroupShield, and > VirusScan! > > I even saw several infections from KLEZ, and supposedly you > didn't even have > to be up to date on your DAT fields for VirusScan to clean that one. > > I just thought that this info was worth putting out there for > those using or > thinking of using VirusScan. > > John Majetic > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
