Inline.... On Dec 26, 2007 2:38 PM, Davies,Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This may be the start of another WM vs Blackberry Rant J > > > > Having used a blackberry since there were first released, there is only > one choice. If you look how blackberry has evolved over the last 6 years, > from my opinion MS and the WM devices manufactures are way behind on the > curve. > > As are all mobile players not just MS > > On a regular basis I test new devices as they come on to the market, and > so far as yet none of the WM devices come close to the user experience of a > Blackberry, both in simplicity to use and stability. Battery life on WM > devices sucks compared to any blackberry. > > Crackberries are for stupid people. WM are very useful to more savvy > individuals. > > As for Manageability, the ability to blank devices remotely as long as > they have a network connection is fantastic, and the control that the > administrator has over the device is second to none, and is simple and easy > to implement. > > Remote wipes are easily done with other vendors... > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* 26 December 2007 22:19 > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Blackberry question > > > > > > Well, we only have about 15 WM users, and only 2 users that are asking > about BB atm. My understanding is that the two services are similar. Is BB > really that much more bulletproof/stable, etc? > > > > *From:* Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 26, 2007 2:18 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Blackberry question > > > > > > I have no idea how many WM users you have now, but once you open the BB > floodgate, you might get overrun. > > > > *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 26, 2007 2:11 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Blackberry question > > > > > > But then if you go to the actual Express page, you see this part: > > > > *What's Included? * > > - One free BlackBerry Enterprise Server Express – Small Business > Edition v4.1 for Microsoft(R) Exchange, IBM(R) Lotus(R) Domino(R) or > Novell(R) > GroupWise(R) > - One user included, expandable to 15 users (at additional cost) > <<<<<<<<<<< > > > > > > *From:* Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 26, 2007 2:05 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Blackberry question > > > > > > Express only covers a single user... > > > > > > > On Dec 26, 2007 1:59 PM, Joe Heaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > We currently use Windows Mobile devices, connecting directly to our > Exchange server. Unfortunately, the Moto Q phones we purchased for our new > Executive Director, and Assistant Director, have had charging issues, as in > they wouldn't take a charge when plugged in. It is possible, also, that the > Director has no clue how to charge his phone, but I hope that scenario is > unlikely. > > > > Anyway, I guess at his previous employment, they used Blackberry devices, > and he's starting to question why we don't use Blackberry here. I explained > to him that in an enterprise situation, we would need to have a separate > server for Blackberry, and we would also need to purchase the server > software. Also, no one in IT has had experience managing this type of > solution, so there would be a learning curve for us. He also asked the same > type of questions of another IT guy, so I think he's going to be going to > our manager and pushing to implement a Blackberry solution. Which finally > brings me to my question here. > > > > I've looked at the Blackberry website, and I see two versions of the BES > software. The Express, and the regular. What's the difference between the > two? If I only have a handful of users, would it be better to get the > Express version, which has no cost? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Joe Heaton > > AISA > > Employment Training Panel > > 1100 J Street, 4th Floor > > Sacramento, CA 95814 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.9/1197 - Release Date: > 12/25/2007 8:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. 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