I agree Michael, babysitting this utility to see what it does is interesting compared to the times I had to run the cmd line tools in Exchange 5.5 and you are correct, if the DB is corrupt it aborts the backup which brings me to the question of:
If you continue to get these DB errors and corruption where do you look to find the problem if the software and hardware are setup to MS standards?? Thanks for all the comments guys, even if it isn't what I want to read. The Truth will set you free... ________________________________ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? You can run isinteg on a dismounted database - pretty much ANY dismounted database - and it will give you warnings. This is because isinteg is a utility and not a database engine itself. You can tell isinteg to fix those warnings, and run it multiple times until there aren't any more warnings, and you've just detuned your indexes. I expect (but admit that I do not know it for sure) that those warnings are what are being reported by GoExchange. Db integrity is checked 100% with every single online backup that you take. 100%. You can't back up a corrupted database with online backup. It aborts. And in Exchange 2007 sp1, it's regularly checked on an ongoing basis. In my Exchange 5.0 to 5.5 migration, I had a call that lasted for 32 hours with Microsoft. They stuck with me all the way. When I had a RAID-5 failure with a bad backup tape on SBS-2000 (and Exchange 5.5 had a custom version in SBS 2000), I had as many as eight engineers working with me to make that right. It took 3 days. And cost me - you guessed it - about $250. Yes, sometimes frontline support can be idiots - but I've never had MSFT fail me in a critical support situation. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? According to the logs it creates, it is still finding errors and fixing them. If someone can show me why we shouldn't use the program and still maintain DB integrity, I'm open to any suggestions for saving money and downtime. The article Webster sent was eye-opening to say the least. ..and they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks. ________________________________ From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? I have never heard of Microsoft failing so badly. They would work with you until the problem was solved. Even the notion of GoExchange solving something that Microsoft couldn't is completely ludicrous. >> it works for us, that's all I know. Really? What is the ongoing need it is filling, besides creating unnecessary downtime? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? Good comments there and it makes sense, but when I took over at the PAC, their Exchange 5.5 server was getting corrupted at least once a week. We called Mickeysoft and they couldn't figure out the problem. Everything was setup properly, up to date etc. GoExchange was purchased and installed. It fixed the problems and the databases have never had a problem since. We are at Exchange 2K3 SP2 now and still use the program. It made a difference for us where Microsoft couldn't. Their response was restore from backup. At that time, the PAC was using demo backup software to backup about 200 Gigs of data. Needless to say, I insisted on better software and hardware to take care of this. Knowing what I know now, after having to restore the DB several times using the Eseutil and Isinteg utils for several weeks prior to upgrading the backup situation and reading this article, I probably would not renew the software. However, for what it's worth, it works for us, that's all I know. Tom ________________________________ From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? Whatcha got against GoExchange? http://www.themssforum.com/ExchangeAdmin/GoExchange/ Read Ben Winzenz's 2nd response. Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~
