Also FWIW, and a slight tangent - RIM recently filed a patent for a touch
screen interface, which going by their history, tends to indicate that they
already have a product fairly close to completion if not already in testing.


FYI -
http://www.unwiredview.com/2008/02/08/blackberry-patents-angled-slider-and-r
im-multi-touch-technology/


Regards,
Amer Karim
Nautilis Information Systems


-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: April-02-08 7:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Fwiw, here at Sunbelt, we're a Blackberry shop.  I've just never found a
really happy Windows CE user.   Blackberries are wonderful email machines,
and they are incredibly durable and reliable.   Now, we do have a BES server
which we get as a Blackberry partner. But I am a strong believer in
Blackberries -- again, for email, they are incredible.  For browsing the
web, well, get an iPhone. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Amer Karim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Yes - depending on your current load on the SBS server, of course.  I have
two installations of it on clients' SBS 2003 - three counting my own.  

Regards,
Amer Karim
Nautilis Information Systems


-----Original Message-----
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April-02-08 5:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Good call, so this professional version could be installed directly in the
SBS 2003 server? 

Miguel



--- Don Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:

> Agree - and perhaps best of all, no need to allow any inbound IP 
> connections - the BES initiates the connection outbound - and provides 
> intranet browser access as well (limited of course to the BB Browser).
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amer Karim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:49 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
> 
> For two users, I would recommend you look at RIM's Blackberry 
> Professional Software - 
> http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/.
> 
> It includes one CAL with the free download and you can purchase 
> additional licenses as you need them for up to 30.  I have it 
> installed and running on a couple of SBS 2003 servers, for less than 
> 10 BB users; I would suggest that you install it on a separate machine 
> for more than that though that would also depend on the load on your 
> server.
> Either way, you can download
> the software and try it out for one of your users or testing purposes; 
> if you like it, you can purchase the additional CAL.
> 
> Regards,
> Amer Karim
> Nautilis Information Systems
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Miguel Gonzalez
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: April-02-08 4:31 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
> 
> I think right now they are thinking of two users, I don't know if the 
> user base will grow in the future (I guess).
> 
> We have ISA 2004 server and thinking of migrating to ISA 2006.
> 
> They need email and calendaring.
> 
> BB server needs to be installed in a different machine? If so, It 
> requires a Windows server machine?
> What is the range or pricing of BB Server?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Miguel
> 
> 
> --- John Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
> 
> > It really depends on several factors - how many users? Firewall 
> > configuration? Actual need - just incredible e-mail or do you 
> > actually need all of
> the
> > other bells and whistles? Yes BES costs a little
> and
> > requires a server but once its set up you can basically forget about 
> > it until you need to add another user or something of that nature. I
> consider
> > the BB far superior when it comes to providing e-mail for ID10Ts on 
> > the road. I have it installed on an 8 yr old repurposed Dell 
> > workstation with no issues. YMMV
> > 
> > John W. Cook
> > System Administrator
> > Partnership For Strong Families
> > 315 SE 2nd Ave
> > Gainesville, Fl 32601
> > Office (352) 393-2741 x320
> > Cell     (352) 215-6944
> > Fax     (352) 393-2746
> > MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeremy Phillips
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:59 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
> > 
> > If you want the least headaches possible, then run Windows Mobile 
> > with ActiveSync, which should work fine with Exchange 2003. 
> > Blackberry does, in fact, require another server.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Jeremy Phillips
> > Senior Messaging Engineer
> > Azaleos Corporation
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Miguel Gonzalez
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> >  We currently have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange 2003. We are 
> > planning to migrate to Exchange 2007, however, I don't have a 
> > timeline for that
> migration
> > yet.
> > 
> >  In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and the costs for 
> > making them to work with our current Exchange server.
> > 
> >  My assumption is that Blackberries require a Blackberry server and 
> > apart of the cost, could be
> a
> > headache.
> > 
> >  My guess is that Windows CE is probably better suited to work 
> > together with Exchange. Do We need
> something
> > special to make it to run?
> > 
> >  Any other recommendations? I want as less
> headaches
> > as possible :)
> > 
> >  Thanks,
> > 
> >  Miguel
> > 
> > 
> >      
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