Tim,

You're obviously not an Executive so you can't see the "true" benefits of
the I-Phone ;-)

- Sean


On 7/14/08, Don Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Very well said!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
>
> All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the
> iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack
> of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with
> most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be
> required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able
> to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be
> "Neat" or "Fun", it doesn't get me far in the business world.
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
>
> As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very
> underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software.
>
> "Push" is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it
> wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor
> does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with -
> so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless
> calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my
> contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time).
>
> I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these
> changes to be made in a future firmware update.
>
> It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't
> wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of
> my purchasing equation.
>
> Andrew Greene
> IS Technician / Webmaster
> City of Anderson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
>
> http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx
>
> First answer to the user is, not this week.
> Second, check with your boss.
> Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your
> BB environment with the activeSync.  (Well, test that you can actually
> get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week
> with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the
> present workload.
> Fourth, get a device to test with.  Not necessarily an iPhone
> Fifth, get a support model for it.  As in SLA = Service Level
> Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support
> anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to
> personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in
> place).
>
> Then put it on the support list.
>
> Steven
>
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Here you go - Things not included.  Ya, you can't create a meeting
> invite?
> > WTF.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf
> >
> >
> >
> > Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features
> are
> > supported, including, for example:
> >
> > *         Folder management
> >
> > *         Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint
> servers
> >
> > *         Task synchronization
> >
> > *         Setting an "out of office" autoreply message
> >
> > *         Creating meeting invitations
> >
> > *         Flagging messages for follow-up
> >
> >
> >
> > - John Barsodi
> >
> > From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
> >
> >
> >
> > Negative no notes or tasks L
> >
> >
> >
> > Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will
> only
> > sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one
> place
> > for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
> >
> >
> >
> > Will it sync Outlook notes?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
> >
> >
> >
> > It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside
> of your
> > Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your
> Iphones
> > to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats
> my BB
> > hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer.
> >
> >
> >
> > You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones
> remotely
> > and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config
> program
> > that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the
> connect
> > back to Exchange.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
> >
> >
> >
> > Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync
> is
> > working great for them, they deployed 7 of them the first day. I
> played a
> > bit with it yesterday, it is an awesome unit. Best feature on it I
> think is
> > Mario Kart. It works like a wireless wii steering wheel....you just
> drive
> > along by tilting and turning the whole Iphone.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:01 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
> >
> >
> >
> > Will = does.
> >
> > It was released last week.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Bingham, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:57 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
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> >
> >
> > Current production release does not.  Version 2 will have ActiveSynch.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:52 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't think iPhones do Active Sync do they? I thought you had to do
> IMAP?
> >
> > 2008/7/14 Stefan Jafs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an
> iPhone?
> >
> > I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but
> what
> > do I need to do on the E2K3?
> >
> > Simply turn on Active Sync?
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