I would have to say that I don't think you disagreed with me, or Don, at all. You said pretty much the same thing. The iPhone is "Cool", but you have to settle for less in the business productivity area to make it work. The whole" I have a hammer, so everything looks like a nail" approach comes to mind...only now it is "I have an iPhone and it is cool, so I will make it work for business". And I'm not a huge fan of BB anymore either (I've used them since the over-sized pager days), but since WM6 and 6.1 have come out I don't feel that BB brings enough to the table to justify the extra cost and infrastructure. Then again, I'd would be somewhat lost without OneNote Mobile, a GREAT productivity enhancer for the mobile platform. Once you start using it, it makes you wonder why you ever used Word. ;-) Tim
-----Original Message----- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I'd have to say I differ in your opinion :) I have a 8 GB 1G phone with the 2.0 software loaded. I am able to get my emails in a push format, albeit not as fast as my blackberry, but nonetheless the mails do flow in without, I only have 1 main outlook folder and use manual fire rules after I process all my email. I haven't tested folders yet, Contacts work flawlessly and so does the Calendar. I can live without Notes and Tasks for now, since I don't use them much. Overall I'm very impressed with what apple has done the apps that can run on the Iphone are very good, I'm a big windows/Intel/blackberry fan, but since I got my Iphone I'm leaning towards all things apple. Is it perfect?, by no means but Blackberry has had quite lot of time to perfect their stuff. Overall as a techie I love it, but perhaps as an Exchange/BES Admin I can see where it would give me headaches with user support -----Original Message----- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Very well said! -----Original Message----- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be "Neat" or "Fun", it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. "Push" is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -----Original Message----- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? > WTF. > > > > http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf > > > > Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are > supported, including, for example: > > * Folder management > > * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers > > * Task synchronization > > * Setting an "out of office" autoreply message > > * Creating meeting invitations > > * Flagging messages for follow-up > > > > - John Barsodi > > From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone > > > > Negative no notes or tasks L > > > > Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only > sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place > for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. > > > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone > > > > Will it sync Outlook notes? > > > > From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone > > > > It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your > Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones > to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB > hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. > > > > You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely > and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program > that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect > back to Exchange. > > > > From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone > > > > Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync is > working great for them, they deployed 7 of them the first day. I played a > bit with it yesterday, it is an awesome unit. Best feature on it I think is > Mario Kart. It works like a wireless wii steering wheel....you just drive > along by tilting and turning the whole Iphone. > > > > > > > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:01 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone > > > > Will = does. > > It was released last week. > > > > From: Bingham, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:57 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone > > > > Current production release does not. Version 2 will have ActiveSynch. > > > > > > From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:52 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone > > > > I don't think iPhones do Active Sync do they? 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