In this instance the GC/DNS etc are all on the exchange box (started off
with one server, then when they liked windows we added a file server)

-----Original Message-----
From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 August 2008 09:22
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007, memory usage, and hunt the thimble

Hi Oliver:

        Question for you, have you recently done anything with your
DNS/DC/GC servers? I have a 2003 environment out here and I've been
recently experiencing an increase in the time it takes to open
folders/messages and even switching between message one and message 2 in
inbox and having it register in the preview pane. Once we've determined
that the Exchange server is running at it's normal level of mediocre we
look to things that connect to the server, or..., to the client.

        Now mind you that things out here have never been peppy (long
latency across multiple satellite links, multiple layers of encryption
and server hardware configurations that barely make specs for the OS) so
to keep things running that their mediocre best, I've had to start
thinking outside the "slow" server box.
        

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-----Original Message-----
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007, memory usage, and hunt the thimble

What leads me to ask? Well partly a general curiosity. Having a server
who's memory is constantly in use fires off loads of alerts (here at
least) and these alerts go to more people than just me, so questions
will get asked, especially as we just upgraded the ram.

Secondly, the server runs like a one legged dog with a bad foot.
Everything exchange related from the exchange 2007 interface which
redraws in small squares (god how I miss the ADUC integration, where did
that go, hey?) to users complaining of 3+ seconds to open an email
(frankly I don't think thats awful but hey-ho) and regularly up to 10
seconds. Flicking between email folders is the same. 

If it were a 2003 box I would say it needs more ram or look at replacing
the sata disks, as it feels like a sata disk issue perhaps. However in
this case we are running SAS disks, with lots of space etc. The server
is only exchange, all the file duties are handled by an SVN box next
door and sharepoint is on a separate server too. 

Olly

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 August 2008 16:05
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007, memory usage, and hunt the thimble

I consider these the key performance counters used for looking at memory
utilization on an Exchange Server:

Memory\Pages/Sec
Memory\% Committed Bytes In Use
Memory\Available Mbytes

Note that memory-in-use has little correlation with MEMORY PRESSURE,
which is much more important on an Exchange Server.

I use the same memory chart that Kevin recommends for initial memory
sizing on my servers.

So...what led you to add more memory? Why do you think you may need even
more?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Bingham, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:34 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007, memory usage, and hunt the thimble

You start with the easy step of following one of the memory planning
guides, like the simple one in TechNet:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb738124(EXCHG.80).aspx which
uses things like server roles, number of mailboxes and number of storage
groups, and whether you are doing any clustering or replication, to
suggest your minimum recommended RAM requirements -- none of which are
in your listed specs.

After that, there are more complex things you can do for monitoring like
page hits, disk I/O, and RPC latency... but if you hit the recommended
targets from TechNet or many other sources, you're probably good.



 

-----Original Message-----
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 7:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2007, memory usage, and hunt the thimble

Hi chaps,

If the store.exe process of Exchange 2007 is designed to consume as much
memory as it can in order to bring the much vaunted (though I would say
much missing) speed improvements, then how do you know when your server
needs a memory upgrade?

What I mean is that, if the memory is always around 95% in use, what
indications are there that your exchange box may be running out of ram? 

We have an exchange 2007 machine running Win 2003 64bit with 8GB of ram
in it. It used to have 4GB in it and, not knowing if it need more ram,
we plumbed for adding another 4gb. Of course, it instantly used it all.
For all I know, it could be needing 28GB and be slowly dying a
ram-restricted death. So is there anything in place in Exch2007 now that
will indicate when we do, correctly, need to look at additional ram ?

Olly


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