Yes, significantly less - especially in large volume. Don't ignore the fact that for larger customers (>5,000 seats) they will also stand up individual forests.
When you do the math, don't forget to include bandwidth cost, A/V cost, A/S cost, backup and restore cost, HA cost, admin cost, power cost, cooling cost, and SA cost (not to mention other general licensing costs). Cost justifying it really isn't a problem. ________________________________ From: Barsodi.John [john.bars...@igt.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed? They advertise $10/user/mo + add’l services on their Exchange Online site. Are you suggesting that they will severely undercut that to sell the service? MS approached us about 2 years ago when I was working on the beginning of my Exchange 2007 transition plans. They had less than 20 customers on it and most of the names that they could tell us were large customers 10-100k+ seats. Doing the math, it doesn’t seem like a worthy investment unless there are some huge price breaks. Fast forward to today, we are now looking at our costs to run the part of my Messaging infrastructure – Exchange and BB, perhaps to consider looking at the Exchange Online option again. At those rates, I don’t see the benefit… Those of you who work for or own an EHS business, how do your customers, who use MAPI only for connectivity, connect up? Just use Outlook Anywhere? We had to look at several dedicated WAN links to the various MS datacenters globally for our users…and those costs add up quick. There’s also the problem with internal relay options…internal application integration(CRM type of products) - JB From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed? Microsoft is pretty buying the seats when they do this. I’ve bid against Microsoft on some of these large customers. Microsoft comes to the table saying “ no exchange licenses, and we’ll sell it to you for nearly nothing a month” It is very hard to complete… 120k users you care looking at 2-20 million dollars in CALs alone plus hardware (5-20m), plus administration(1-2m a year).. etc.. Compare that with 50-500k a month and the dollars and upper management start making up your mind for you. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS– This message is Certified Swine Flu Free My life http://www.hedonists.ca<http://www.hedonists.ca/> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 2:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed? Leave it to Microsoft marketing to come up with Business POS… :) From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed? Not true. Glaxo-Smith-Kline (GSK, one of the largest drug companies in the world) is in the process of moving 120,000 (yes, 120K) seats to Microsoft's BPOS solution. They aren't the first, and they won't be the last. I know too much about this particular move that isn't public - but the fact that it is happening is known and public information. ________________________________ From: Maglinger, Paul [pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed? I believe there is too much corporate paranoia for a 3rd party email solution on large companies. Small and medium businesses however... ________________________________ From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed? I just find it hard to believe that Google will be replacing Exchange at the corporate end. While that may be their goal, they’ve been saying that for many years. The same holds true for the MS Office “cloud” model. Where they are making inroads are at a number of public schools, colleges, etc that are using Google email brand (but still buying Office). They are replacing *Nix mail platforms and Netware. Of the ones I can think of, none of them had Exchange. And I’m sure the schools are getting a huge break on it (if not for free). Gmail is great. Not only has it been convenient, but it’s been free. I also don’t think that Gmail would be nearly as popular as it is if there was a cost to the end user. From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed? "Around 1.75 million businesses are using Google Apps"? 1.75 million USERS I would believe, not businesses. Exchange in your local shop may be doomed, MS wants you to buy it as a cloud service too. It was only a matter of time before somebody came up with reasonable competition. Carl From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Is Exchange Doomed? http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10260879-2.html Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _____ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~
