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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup generations

That is what the Billy Goat's Gruff called me.

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From: Andy Shook [andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup generations

Troll.



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup generations

You are just jealous that I can walk and chew gum at the same time.

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From: Andy Shook [andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup generations

Swing dancin' poopy-head.



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup generations

Troll.

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From: Andy Shook [andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup generations

What about GoExchange!? :)

Shook
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup generations

The only way to verify an Exchange backup is to use eseutil (or the equivalent 
API).

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From: Joseph L. Casale [jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup generations

I use rsync :)
VSS snaps the db at its current state, then rsync transfers only the delta to 
the two remote copies, while doing this it verifies the integrity compared at 
least to the current snap. Given the zfs snaps on the copy side, it's pretty 
bloody cool, if I need more retention I just add to the pool.

Given the unsupported nature, I only did this at home with my stuff for some 
time, but since my home and work is all virtualized, verifying backups is 
*almost* no pain at all.

I thought about using rCLI or ssh commands to start the "lab" and run a verify 
then shut off and rollback, problem is I don't really know an automated way to 
check the backup except for event logs/eseutil? To get the data in the 
segmented lan I plan to just mirror the DB's to an iSCSI lun so it can be 
mounted from any server and brought up to date. Bah next time when I am even to 
bored to do nothing:)

jlc

-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup generations

VSS snapshots have the ability to merge differences/deltas in an exchange mdb 
and log file, respectively? I remember differentials being only as good as the 
last full, but if VSS can merge deltas into the original mdb, that must 
conserve a significant throughput strain.

On 7/8/09, Joseph L. Casale <jcas...@activenetwerx.com> wrote:
> Holly sh!t,
> What size of pipe do you have and how small is your db?
> I wish the public paid for my bandwidth :)
>
>
> After our most recent tape library failed, we gave up on tapes, too 
> costly.
>
> I now use vss and scripts to snapshot the db, and replicate only 
> differences across street (fiber) and to one of the owners home's 
> (vpn) but since only changes are replicated, the db's are checked for 
> integrity and made to "appear" as fulls everyday.
>
> A zfs snapshot is taken after each backup that checks free space and 
> drops the oldest one if need be to make space.
>
> jlc
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 4:52 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Backup generations
>
> We use an online service, uploading overnight.  We have two separate 
> Exchange backups.  The server(database), and a mapi backup(messages).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Kuhlman <drkuhl...@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:45 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> Subject: Re: Backup generations
>
> Is everyone still using tape for these keepers or something else?
>
> My small client has their stuff in a less than clean factory 
> environment (the office where the servers are is part of the factory 
> but still dirty) and I can't keep tape drives working reliably.
>
> Thanks
>
> Don K
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: lists <li...@bdtechnology.org>
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 2:28:14 PM
> Subject: RE: Backup generations
>
>
> Full backups only. Keep for 30 days then keep the first day of every 
> month for a year.
>
> Cheers.
>
> From:Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:33 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Backup generations
>
> I have two weeks of dailies, monthlies and a yearly as well...just for 
> sh!ts and giggles.
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Joe Heaton <jhea...@etp.ca.gov> wrote:
> How many generations of your Exchange database are you guys keeping?
> Meaning, how far back are you keeping?  A couple of days, a week, a 
> month, 6 months?
>
> Joe Heaton
> AISA
> Employment Training Panel
> 1100 J Street, 4th Floor
> Sacramento, CA  95814
> (916) 327-5276
> jhea...@etp.ca.gov
>
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