Do you have a write-up on your setup somewhere?  It sounds like your
running Exchange on Solaris unless I'm mistaking what zfs you're talking
about!

Any thoughts on Unison vs. rsync on windows?  Sounds like y�����ve got a
creative solution anyway.

~JasonG

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 21:10
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Backup generations
> 
> I use rsync :)
> VSS snaps the db at its current state, then rsync transfers only the
> delta to the two remote copies, while doing this it verifies the
> integrity
> compared at least to the current snap. Given the zfs snaps on the copy
> side,
> it's pretty bloody cool, if I need more retention I just add to the
pool.
> 
> Given the unsupported nature, I only did this at home with my stuff for
> some time, but since my home and work is all virtualized, verifying
> backups
> is *almost* no pain at all.
> 
> I thought about using rCLI or ssh commands to start the "lab" and run a
> verify
> then shut off and rollback, problem is I don't really know an automated
> way to
> check the backup except for event logs/eseutil? To get the data in the
> segmented
> lan I plan to just mirror the DB's to an iSCSI lun so it can be mounted
> from any
> server and brought up to date. Bah next time when I am even to bored to
> do nothing:)
> 
> jlc
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:07 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Backup generations
> 
> VSS snapshots have the ability to merge differences/deltas in an
> exchange mdb and log file, respectively? I remember differentials
> being only as good as the last full, but if VSS can merge deltas into
> the original mdb, that must conserve a significant throughput strain.
> 
> On 7/8/09, Joseph L. Casale <jcas...@activenetwerx.com> wrote:
> > Holly sh!t,
> > What size of pipe do you have and how small is your db?
> > I wish the public paid for my bandwidth :)
> >
> >
> > After our most recent tape library failed, we gave up on
> > tapes, too costly.
> >
> > I now use vss and scripts to snapshot the db, and replicate
> > only differences across street (fiber) and to one of the owners
> > home's (vpn) but since only changes are replicated, the db's
> > are checked for integrity and made to "appear" as fulls everyday.
> >
> > A zfs snapshot is taken after each backup that checks free space
> > and drops the oldest one if need be to make space.
> >
> > jlc
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 4:52 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Backup generations
> >
> > We use an online service, uploading overnight.  We have two separate
> > Exchange backups.  The server(database), and a mapi backup(messages).
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Don Kuhlman <drkuhl...@yahoo.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:45 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> > Subject: Re: Backup generations
> >
> > Is everyone still using tape for these keepers or something else?
> >
> > My small client has their stuff in a less than clean factory
> environment
> > (the office where the servers are is part of the factory but still
> dirty)
> > and I can't keep tape drives working reliably.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Don K
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: lists <li...@bdtechnology.org>
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 2:28:14 PM
> > Subject: RE: Backup generations
> >
> >
> > Full backups only. Keep for 30 days then keep the first day of every
> month
> > for a year.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > From:Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:33 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Backup generations
> >
> > I have two weeks of dailies, monthlies and a yearly as well...just for
> sh!ts
> > and giggles.
> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Joe Heaton <jhea...@etp.ca.gov>
wrote:
> > How many generations of your Exchange database are you guys keeping?
> > Meaning, how far back are you keeping?  A couple of days, a week, a
> month, 6
> > months?
> >
> > Joe Heaton
> > AISA
> > Employment Training Panel
> > 1100 J Street, 4th Floor
> > Sacramento, CA  95814
> > (916) 327-5276
> > jhea...@etp.ca.gov
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

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