Thanks Joe, nice to see I'm not the only one. I also posted in the Outlook general forum with not too much response: http://ow.ly/1Qd9D
Some discussion occurring on the office development forum too: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vsto/thread/61a98015-24a4-47 2c-a100-37b1e99d4ce4?prof=required Apparently a TNEF attachment will retain all info, but that's no better without that guy's future TNEF->MIME (Base64?) proxy. Hopefully a hotfix is on the horizon! Wonder if it makes sense to do a PSS call, though I upchuck at the thought of paying to make a bug report. I'm still hoping against all odds that some decent admin-friendly mail-flow troubleshooting features start trickling in some day. e.g. Ctrl+u raw message view like in T-bird, true deterministic encoding and MIME related choices, and non-buggy plain text editor. *sigh* ~JasonG > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:52 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Not all headers included when forwarding as attachment > > Jason, > > Just wanted to let you know that I was also able to observe a similar > issue where the headers displayed in Outlook or OWA do not match the > headers in a forwarded message (as an attachment)... In my testing, I > forwarded the full messages as attachments to my gmail account. > > While I didn't see as large a difference of stripped headers, there > certainly are differences and items that don't match between Outlook and > the forwarded version... > > For one example, look for the TO: line on each set of headers (example > below)... I know that the subscription for this newsletter goes to my > joepoched...@namfg.com account... However, the forwarded message has > replaced the correct original TO: info with my updated > joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com address! (Both addresses are associated > with the same mailbox, but the fivesgroup.com address is newer and > presently my "Primary" SMTP address within Exchange. There's no reason > Outlook should change this detail on forwarding though.) I was able to > observe this specific instance of header mangling on every message sent > directly to my old SMTP address. > > Here's example headers after I shuffled lines to make them match as close > as possible. I didn't delete anything, just re-arranged to make > differences more apparent at the bottom of each... The aforementioned > changed To: line is line 29 in each header. > > Original message headers as presented in Outlook 2010 / Exchange 2007 > OWA: > > Received: from mail121-tx2-R.bigfish.com (65.55.88.113) by ex- > cas.namfg.com > (10.1.1.8) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.393.1; Wed, 26 May > 2010 > 11:28:29 -0400 > Received: from mail121-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by > mail121-tx2-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A58715982F9 for > <joepoched...@namfg.com>; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:28 +0000 (UTC) > X-SpamScore: -30 > X-BigFish: vps- > 30(zzcc3N77f5I541I1996J552W946fmzz272R1202hz4fhzz2fh5eh61h) > X-Spam-TCS-SCL: 0:0 > Received: from mail121-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by > mail121-tx2 > (MessageSwitch) id 1274887705562932_22654; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:25 > +0000 > (UTC) > Received: from TX2EHSMHS025.bigfish.com (unknown [10.9.14.244]) by > mail121-tx2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107F0870052 for > <joepoched...@namfg.com>; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:24 +0000 (UTC) > Received: from chalmers.techtarget.com (206.19.49.33) by > TX2EHSMHS025.bigfish.com (10.9.99.125) with Microsoft SMTP Server id > 14.0.482.44; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:22 +0000 > DomainKey-Signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; > s=ttgt_1024; d=lists.techtarget.com; > h=From; > b=SB+BVvXBdPOObWbuIOFYvtfO6waiNHLokCFou1b86N68c80g3BttgmfXTWyBr9N+ > 4ay/+wxiQQUor4SA+QZbfn10L3USFwLyfKk3aiWrFYgMiOkjxE4QIS7WuqqeNR39 > b2VnATT9vw6KbGJQbwWWsOK8LpdMhpi5rL2NQQgOGiU= > Received: from [10.200.1.4] ([10.200.1.4:6167]) by > chalmers.techtarget.com > (envelope-from <767500+2d3-joepochedley=namfg....@lists.techtarget.com>) > (ecelerity 2.2.2.35 r(26825/26848M)) with ECSTREAM id 74/4F- > 03936-51E3DFB4; > Wed, 26 May 2010 11:28:21 -0400 > To: "joepoched...@namfg.com" <joepoched...@namfg.com> > Message-ID: <74.4f.03936.51e3d...@chalmers.techtarget.com> > From: Windows Server Advisor <searchwindowsser...@lists.techtarget.com> > Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:18 +0000 > Reply-To: <no_re...@lists.techtarget.com> > Subject: Active Directory and PowerShell unite in R2 > Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: TargetMail E-Mail By TechTarget.com > X-content_id: 767500 > X-Reverse-DNS: mailhost9.lists.techtarget.com > Return-Path: 767500+2d3-joepochedley=namfg....@lists.techtarget.com > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > Message headers from attachment forwarded to Gmail: > > Received: from mail121-tx2-R.bigfish.com (65.55.88.113) by ex- > cas.namfg.com > (10.1.1.8) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.393.1; Wed, 26 May > 2010 > 11:28:29 -0400 > Received: from mail121-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by > mail121-tx2-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A58715982F9 for > <joepoched...@namfg.com>; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:28 +0000 (UTC) > X-spamscore: -30 > x-bigfish: vps- > 30(zzcc3N77f5I541I1996J552W946fmzz272R1202hz4fhzz2fh5eh61h) > x-spam-tcs-scl: 0:0 > Received: from mail121-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by > mail121-tx2 > (MessageSwitch) id 1274887705562932_22654; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:25 > +0000 > (UTC) > Received: from TX2EHSMHS025.bigfish.com (unknown [10.9.14.244]) by > mail121-tx2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107F0870052 for > <joepoched...@namfg.com>; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:24 +0000 (UTC) > Received: from chalmers.techtarget.com (206.19.49.33) by > TX2EHSMHS025.bigfish.com (10.9.99.125) with Microsoft SMTP Server id > 14.0.482.44; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:22 +0000 > domainkey-signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; > s=ttgt_1024; d=lists.techtarget.com; > h=From; > b=SB+BVvXBdPOObWbuIOFYvtfO6waiNHLokCFou1b86N68c80g3BttgmfXTWyBr9N+ > 4ay/+wxiQQUor4SA+QZbfn10L3USFwLyfKk3aiWrFYgMiOkjxE4QIS7WuqqeNR39 > b2VnATT9vw6KbGJQbwWWsOK8LpdMhpi5rL2NQQgOGiU= > Received: from [10.200.1.4] ([10.200.1.4:6167]) by > chalmers.techtarget.com > (envelope-from <767500+2d3-joepochedley=namfg....@lists.techtarget.com>) > (ecelerity 2.2.2.35 r(26825/26848M)) with ECSTREAM id 74/4F- > 03936-51E3DFB4; > Wed, 26 May 2010 11:28:21 -0400 > To: Joe Pochedley <joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com> > Message-ID: <74.4f.03936.51e3d...@chalmers.techtarget.com> > From: Windows Server Advisor <searchwindowsser...@lists.techtarget.com> > Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 11:28:18 -0400 > Reply-To: "no_re...@lists.techtarget.com" <no_re...@lists.techtarget.com> > Subject: Active Directory and PowerShell unite in R2 > Thread-Topic: Active Directory and PowerShell unite in R2 > Thread-Index: Acr86BhszBb/YfPhQau+vliSqVDFKw== > X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: ex-cas.namfg.com > X-MS-Has-Attach: > X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: > x-content_id: 767500 > x-reverse-dns: mailhost9.lists.techtarget.com > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="_000_744F0393651E3DFB4chalmerstechtargetcom_" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > > It's one thing for Outlook to make the headers look nicer for display, > but Outlook should not be mangling the headers in any way when you > forward them. > > JP > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:00 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Not all headers included when forwarding as attachment > > OL 2010 against Ex2003: This appears to be something new with OL 2010 > compared with OL2k7 (but maybe I've managed to munge something). > > Issue is, when I forward a message received from the Internet as an > attachment, the attached message loses many of its original headers. Am > I > missing a setting somewhere? Behavior is the same with <ctrl>+<alt>+<f> > or dragging the message to attach. > > Headers AFTER forwarding: > Received: from mxgateway.npumail.com ([192.168.2.10]) by > exchgsrv.nputilities.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 18 > May 2010 18:19:03 -0400 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > Received: from tus1smtoutpex02.symantec.com ([216.10.195.242]) by > mxgateway.npumail.com with ESMTP; 18 May 2010 18:18:57 -0400 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 > Received: from tus1opsmtapin02.ges.symantec.com > (tus1opsmtapin02.ges.symantec.com [192.168.214.44]) by (Symantec > Brightmail Gateway out) with SMTP id C9.4B.27235.F5D03FB4; Tue, 18 May > 2010 14:57:52 -0700 (MST) > Received: from reserved-155-64-230-18.ges.symantec.com ([155.64.230.18] > helo=TUS1XCHECNPIN01.enterprise.veritas.com) by > tus1opsmtapin02.ges.symantec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from > <chris_aus...@symantec.com>) id 1OEUmY-0000F2-7K; Tue, 18 May 2010 > 14:56:58 -0700 > Received: from TUS1XCHEVSPIN04.enterprise.veritas.com ([155.64.230.53]) > by TUS1XCHECNPIN01.enterprise.veritas.com with Microsoft > SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 18 May 2010 14:56:57 -0700 > Content-class: urn:content-classes:message > Subject: Learn How Symantec spams its customers Webcast. > Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 17:58:10 -0400 > Message-ID: > <1bf6ba633bdc0e48b81213232b41e615a99...@tus1xchclupin09.enterprise.verita > s > .com> > X-MS-Has-Attach: > X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: > Thread-Topic: Learn How Symantec spams its customers Webcast. > Thread-Index: Acr2qeWaE/cQLtszSauixh7WqOhtNwACya8w > From: "Chris Austin" <chris_aus...@symantec.com> > To: "Chris Austin" <chris_aus...@symantec.com> > > > ACTUAL Headers: > > Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 > Received: from mxgateway.npumail.com ([192.168.2.10]) by > exchgsrv.nputilities.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); > Tue, 18 May 2010 18:19:03 -0400 > Subject: Learn How Symantec spams its customers Webcast. > Authentication-Results: mxgateway.npumail.com; dkim=neutral (message not > signed) header.i=none > Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=216.10.195.242; > receiver=npumail.com; > envelope-from="chris_aus...@symantec.com"; > x-sender="chris_aus...@symantec.com"; > x-conformance=sidf_compatible > Received-SPF: Pass identity=mailfrom; client-ip=216.10.195.242; > receiver=npumail.com; > envelope-from="chris_aus...@symantec.com"; > x-sender="chris_aus...@symantec.com"; > x-conformance=sidf_compatible; > x-record-type="v=spf1" > Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=216.10.195.242; > receiver=npumail.com; > envelope-from="chris_aus...@symantec.com"; > x-sender="postmas...@tus1smtoutpex02.symantec.com"; > x-conformance=sidf_compatible > X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true > X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: > AvQCAHmv8kvYCsPymWdsb2JhbACBPoFVBJoBbxUBAQEBAQgLCgcRIqsgg1ONHYJ1gTFqBINA > X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,258,1272859200"; > d="scan'208,217";a="1861722" > Received: from tus1smtoutpex02.symantec.com ([216.10.195.242]) > by mxgateway.npumail.com with ESMTP; 18 May 2010 18:18:57 -0400 > X-AuditID: d80ac3f2-b7cd2ae000006a63-3a-4bf30d5f67ff > Received: from tus1opsmtapin02.ges.symantec.com > (tus1opsmtapin02.ges.symantec.com [192.168.214.44]) > by (Symantec Brightmail Gateway out) with SMTP id > C9.4B.27235.F5D03FB4; Tue, 18 May 2010 14:57:52 -0700 (MST) > Received: from reserved-155-64-230-18.ges.symantec.com ([155.64.230.18] > helo=TUS1XCHECNPIN01.enterprise.veritas.com) > by tus1opsmtapin02.ges.symantec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) > (envelope-from <chris_aus...@symantec.com>) > id 1OEUmY-0000F2-7K; Tue, 18 May 2010 14:56:58 -0700 > Received: from TUS1XCHEVSPIN04.enterprise.veritas.com ([155.64.230.53]) > by > TUS1XCHECNPIN01.enterprise.veritas.com with Microsoft > SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); > Tue, 18 May 2010 14:56:57 -0700 > Content-class: urn:content-classes:message > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CAF6D5.03EE53D6" > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 > Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:58:10 -0700 > Message-ID: > <1bf6ba633bdc0e48b81213232b41e615a99...@tus1xchclupin09.enterprise.verita > s > .com> > X-MS-Has-Attach: > X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: > Thread-Topic: Learn How Symantec spams its customers Webcast. > Thread-Index: Acr2qeWaE/cQLtszSauixh7WqOhtNwACya8w > From: "Chris Austin" <chris_aus...@symantec.com> > To: "Chris Austin" <chris_aus...@symantec.com> > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2010 21:56:57.0277 (UTC) > FILETIME=[08FD5ED0:01CAF6D5] > X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== > Return-Path: mailer-dae...@mxgateway.npumail.com > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAF6D5.03EE53D6 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAF6D5.03EE53D6 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAF6D5.03EE53D6-- > > Any suggestions appreciated! > > ~JasonG > > > > >
