Yikes, thanks for the possible work-around!

I can say with certainty this was not an issue with 2007 sp2.

~JasonG

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 14:15
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Not all headers included when forwarding as attachment
> 
> You don't have to pay to make bug reports. You ask for a non-dec and
they
> give it to you. However, you do have to offer a CC up front.
> 
> Outlook retains 100% fidelity on RFC headers and on pre-existing NAMED
> PROPERTIES. MAPI maintains 100% fidelity on transport headers at
incoming
> bridgehead (hub) but since Internet named properties are no longer
> propagated by default as of Exchange 2007 sp2, Outlook 2010 doesn't try
> to either. That behavior may have been introduced as of Outlook 2007
sp2,
> you might want to check with an Outlook MVP.
> 
> The easiest solution, I believe, would be to create an Internet named
> property for your mailbox databases for the headers in question. There
is
> information on how to do that at msexchangeteam.com; there are a number
> of posts on that blog from last year about named property behavior
> changes. I think I blogged about it too; I can't remember. Ah yes, here
> we go:
> 
> <http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2009/06/17/named-
> properties-what-lies-ahead.aspx>
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 2:00 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Not all headers included when forwarding as attachment
> 
> Thanks Joe, nice to see I'm not the only one.
> 
> I also posted in the Outlook general forum with not too much response:
> http://ow.ly/1Qd9D
> 
> Some discussion occurring on the office development forum too:
> http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vsto/thread/61a98015-24a4-
> 47
> 2c-a100-37b1e99d4ce4?prof=required
> 
> Apparently a TNEF attachment will retain all info, but that's no better
> without that guy's future TNEF->MIME (Base64?) proxy.
> 
> Hopefully a hotfix is on the horizon!  Wonder if it makes sense to do a
> PSS call, though I upchuck at the thought of paying to make a bug
report.
> 
> I'm still hoping against all odds that some decent admin-friendly mail-
> flow troubleshooting features start trickling in some day. e.g.
> Ctrl+u raw message view like in T-bird, true deterministic encoding and
> MIME related choices, and non-buggy plain text editor.
> 
> *sigh*
> 
> ~JasonG
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:52
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Not all headers included when forwarding as attachment
> >
> > Jason,
> >
> > Just wanted to let you know that I was also able to observe a similar
> > issue where the headers displayed in Outlook or OWA do not match the
> > headers in a forwarded message (as an attachment)...  In my testing, I
> > forwarded the full messages as attachments to my gmail account.
> >
> > While I didn't see as large a difference of stripped headers, there
> > certainly are differences and items that don't match between Outlook
> > and the forwarded version...
> >
> > For one example, look for the TO: line on each set of headers (example
> > below)...  I know that the subscription for this newsletter goes to my
> > joepoched...@namfg.com account...  However, the forwarded message has
> > replaced the correct original TO: info with my updated
> > joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com address!  (Both addresses are associated
> > with the same mailbox, but the fivesgroup.com address is newer and
> > presently my "Primary" SMTP address within Exchange.  There's no
> > reason Outlook should change this detail on forwarding though.)  I was
> > able to observe this specific instance of header mangling on every
> > message sent directly to my old SMTP address.
> >
> > Here's example headers after I shuffled lines to make them match as
> close
> > as possible.  I didn't delete anything, just re-arranged to make
> > differences more apparent at the bottom of each...  The aforementioned
> > changed To: line is line 29 in each header.
> >
> > Original message headers as presented in Outlook 2010 / Exchange 2007
> > OWA:
> >
> > Received: from mail121-tx2-R.bigfish.com (65.55.88.113) by ex-
> > cas.namfg.com
> >  (10.1.1.8) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.393.1; Wed, 26 May
> > 2010
> >  11:28:29 -0400
> > Received: from mail121-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
> by
> >  mail121-tx2-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A58715982F9
> for
> >  <joepoched...@namfg.com>; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:28 +0000 (UTC)
> > X-SpamScore: -30
> > X-BigFish: vps-
> > 30(zzcc3N77f5I541I1996J552W946fmzz272R1202hz4fhzz2fh5eh61h)
> > X-Spam-TCS-SCL: 0:0
> > Received: from mail121-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by
> > mail121-tx2
> >  (MessageSwitch) id 1274887705562932_22654; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:25
> > +0000
> >  (UTC)
> > Received: from TX2EHSMHS025.bigfish.com (unknown [10.9.14.244])
> by
> >  mail121-tx2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107F0870052  for
> >  <joepoched...@namfg.com>; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:24 +0000 (UTC)
> > Received: from chalmers.techtarget.com (206.19.49.33) by
> > TX2EHSMHS025.bigfish.com (10.9.99.125) with Microsoft SMTP Server id
> > 14.0.482.44; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:22 +0000
> > DomainKey-Signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;
> >       s=ttgt_1024; d=lists.techtarget.com;
> >       h=From;
> >
> b=SB+BVvXBdPOObWbuIOFYvtfO6waiNHLokCFou1b86N68c80g3BttgmfXTWyBr9N+
> >       4ay/+wxiQQUor4SA+QZbfn10L3USFwLyfKk3aiWrFYgMiOkjxE4QIS7WuqqeNR39
> >       b2VnATT9vw6KbGJQbwWWsOK8LpdMhpi5rL2NQQgOGiU=
> > Received: from [10.200.1.4] ([10.200.1.4:6167])       by
> > chalmers.techtarget.com
> >  (envelope-from
> <767500+2d3-joepochedley=namfg....@lists.techtarget.com>)
> >       (ecelerity 2.2.2.35 r(26825/26848M)) with ECSTREAM      id
74/4F-
> > 03936-51E3DFB4;
> >  Wed, 26 May 2010 11:28:21 -0400
> > To: "joepoched...@namfg.com" <joepoched...@namfg.com>
> > Message-ID: <74.4f.03936.51e3d...@chalmers.techtarget.com>
> > From: Windows Server Advisor
> > <searchwindowsser...@lists.techtarget.com>
> > Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:18 +0000
> > Reply-To: <no_re...@lists.techtarget.com>
> > Subject: Active Directory and PowerShell unite in R2
> > Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > X-Mailer: TargetMail E-Mail By TechTarget.com
> > X-content_id: 767500
> > X-Reverse-DNS: mailhost9.lists.techtarget.com
> > Return-Path: 767500+2d3-joepochedley=namfg....@lists.techtarget.com
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> >
> >
> > Message headers from attachment forwarded to Gmail:
> >
> > Received: from mail121-tx2-R.bigfish.com (65.55.88.113) by ex-
> > cas.namfg.com
> >  (10.1.1.8) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.393.1; Wed, 26 May
> > 2010
> >  11:28:29 -0400
> > Received: from mail121-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
> by
> >  mail121-tx2-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A58715982F9
> for
> >  <joepoched...@namfg.com>; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:28 +0000 (UTC)
> > X-spamscore: -30
> > x-bigfish: vps-
> > 30(zzcc3N77f5I541I1996J552W946fmzz272R1202hz4fhzz2fh5eh61h)
> > x-spam-tcs-scl: 0:0
> > Received: from mail121-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by
> > mail121-tx2
> >  (MessageSwitch) id 1274887705562932_22654; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:25
> > +0000
> >  (UTC)
> > Received: from TX2EHSMHS025.bigfish.com (unknown [10.9.14.244])
> by
> >  mail121-tx2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107F0870052  for
> >  <joepoched...@namfg.com>; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:24 +0000 (UTC)
> > Received: from chalmers.techtarget.com (206.19.49.33) by
> > TX2EHSMHS025.bigfish.com (10.9.99.125) with Microsoft SMTP Server id
> > 14.0.482.44; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:28:22 +0000
> > domainkey-signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=ttgt_1024;
> > d=lists.techtarget.com;
> >       h=From;
> >
> b=SB+BVvXBdPOObWbuIOFYvtfO6waiNHLokCFou1b86N68c80g3BttgmfXTWyBr9N+
> >       4ay/+wxiQQUor4SA+QZbfn10L3USFwLyfKk3aiWrFYgMiOkjxE4QIS7WuqqeNR39
> >       b2VnATT9vw6KbGJQbwWWsOK8LpdMhpi5rL2NQQgOGiU=
> > Received: from [10.200.1.4] ([10.200.1.4:6167])       by
> > chalmers.techtarget.com
> >  (envelope-from
> <767500+2d3-joepochedley=namfg....@lists.techtarget.com>)
> >       (ecelerity 2.2.2.35 r(26825/26848M)) with ECSTREAM      id
74/4F-
> > 03936-51E3DFB4;
> >  Wed, 26 May 2010 11:28:21 -0400
> > To: Joe Pochedley <joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com>
> > Message-ID: <74.4f.03936.51e3d...@chalmers.techtarget.com>
> > From: Windows Server Advisor
> > <searchwindowsser...@lists.techtarget.com>
> > Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 11:28:18 -0400
> > Reply-To: "no_re...@lists.techtarget.com"
> <no_re...@lists.techtarget.com>
> > Subject: Active Directory and PowerShell unite in R2
> > Thread-Topic: Active Directory and PowerShell unite in R2
> > Thread-Index: Acr86BhszBb/YfPhQau+vliSqVDFKw==
> > X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: ex-cas.namfg.com
> > X-MS-Has-Attach:
> > X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
> > x-content_id: 767500
> > x-reverse-dns: mailhost9.lists.techtarget.com
> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> >       boundary="_000_744F0393651E3DFB4chalmerstechtargetcom_"
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> >
> >
> >
> > It's one thing for Outlook to make the headers look nicer for display,
> > but Outlook should not be mangling the headers in any way when you
> > forward them.
> >
> > JP
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:00 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Not all headers included when forwarding as attachment
> >
> > OL 2010 against Ex2003: This appears to be something new with OL 2010
> > compared with OL2k7 (but maybe I've managed to munge something).
> >
> > Issue is, when I forward a message received from the Internet as an
> > attachment, the attached message loses many of its original headers.
> > Am I missing a setting somewhere?  Behavior is the same with
> > <ctrl>+<alt>+<f> or dragging the message to attach.
> >
> > Headers AFTER forwarding:
> > Received:  from mxgateway.npumail.com ([192.168.2.10]) by
> > exchgsrv.nputilities.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue,
> 18
> > May 2010 18:19:03 -0400
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> >       charset="UTF-8"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> > Received:  from tus1smtoutpex02.symantec.com ([216.10.195.242])  by
> > mxgateway.npumail.com with ESMTP; 18 May 2010 18:18:57 -0400
> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5
> > Received:  from tus1opsmtapin02.ges.symantec.com
> > (tus1opsmtapin02.ges.symantec.com [192.168.214.44]) by  (Symantec
> > Brightmail Gateway out) with SMTP id C9.4B.27235.F5D03FB4; Tue, 18 May
> > 2010 14:57:52 -0700 (MST)
> > Received:  from reserved-155-64-230-18.ges.symantec.com
> > ([155.64.230.18]
> > helo=TUS1XCHECNPIN01.enterprise.veritas.com) by
> > tus1opsmtapin02.ges.symantec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from
> > <chris_aus...@symantec.com>) id 1OEUmY-0000F2-7K; Tue, 18 May 2010
> > 14:56:58 -0700
> > Received:  from TUS1XCHEVSPIN04.enterprise.veritas.com
> > ([155.64.230.53]) by TUS1XCHECNPIN01.enterprise.veritas.com with
> > Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 18 May 2010 14:56:57 -0700
> > Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
> > Subject: Learn How Symantec spams its customers Webcast.
> > Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 17:58:10 -0400
> > Message-ID:
> >
>
<1bf6ba633bdc0e48b81213232b41e615a99...@tus1xchclupin09.enterprise.verita
> > s
> > .com>
> > X-MS-Has-Attach:
> > X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
> > Thread-Topic: Learn How Symantec spams its customers Webcast.
> > Thread-Index: Acr2qeWaE/cQLtszSauixh7WqOhtNwACya8w
> > From: "Chris Austin" <chris_aus...@symantec.com>
> > To: "Chris Austin" <chris_aus...@symantec.com>
> >
> >
> > ACTUAL Headers:
> >
> > Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
> > Received: from mxgateway.npumail.com ([192.168.2.10]) by
> > exchgsrv.nputilities.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675);
> >        Tue, 18 May 2010 18:19:03 -0400
> > Subject: Learn How Symantec spams its customers Webcast.
> > Authentication-Results: mxgateway.npumail.com; dkim=neutral (message
> > not
> > signed) header.i=none
> > Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=216.10.195.242;
> >   receiver=npumail.com;
> >   envelope-from="chris_aus...@symantec.com";
> >   x-sender="chris_aus...@symantec.com";
> >   x-conformance=sidf_compatible
> > Received-SPF: Pass identity=mailfrom; client-ip=216.10.195.242;
> >   receiver=npumail.com;
> >   envelope-from="chris_aus...@symantec.com";
> >   x-sender="chris_aus...@symantec.com";
> >   x-conformance=sidf_compatible;
> >   x-record-type="v=spf1"
> > Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=216.10.195.242;
> >   receiver=npumail.com;
> >   envelope-from="chris_aus...@symantec.com";
> >   x-sender="postmas...@tus1smtoutpex02.symantec.com";
> >   x-conformance=sidf_compatible
> > X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
> > X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result:
> > AvQCAHmv8kvYCsPymWdsb2JhbACBPoFVBJoBbxUBAQEBAQgLCgcRIqsgg1ONHYJ1gTFqBI
> > NA
> > X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,258,1272859200";
> >    d="scan'208,217";a="1861722"
> > Received: from tus1smtoutpex02.symantec.com ([216.10.195.242])
> >   by mxgateway.npumail.com with ESMTP; 18 May 2010 18:18:57 -0400
> > X-AuditID: d80ac3f2-b7cd2ae000006a63-3a-4bf30d5f67ff
> > Received: from tus1opsmtapin02.ges.symantec.com
> > (tus1opsmtapin02.ges.symantec.com [192.168.214.44])
> >       by  (Symantec Brightmail Gateway out) with SMTP id
> > C9.4B.27235.F5D03FB4; Tue, 18 May 2010 14:57:52 -0700 (MST)
> > Received: from reserved-155-64-230-18.ges.symantec.com
> > ([155.64.230.18]
> > helo=TUS1XCHECNPIN01.enterprise.veritas.com)
> >       by tus1opsmtapin02.ges.symantec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67)
> >       (envelope-from <chris_aus...@symantec.com>)
> >       id 1OEUmY-0000F2-7K; Tue, 18 May 2010 14:56:58 -0700
> > Received: from TUS1XCHEVSPIN04.enterprise.veritas.com
> > ([155.64.230.53]) by TUS1XCHECNPIN01.enterprise.veritas.com with
> > Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675);
> >        Tue, 18 May 2010 14:56:57 -0700
> > Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> >       boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CAF6D5.03EE53D6"
> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5
> > Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:58:10 -0700
> > Message-ID:
> >
>
<1bf6ba633bdc0e48b81213232b41e615a99...@tus1xchclupin09.enterprise.verita
> > s
> > .com>
> > X-MS-Has-Attach:
> > X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
> > Thread-Topic: Learn How Symantec spams its customers Webcast.
> > Thread-Index: Acr2qeWaE/cQLtszSauixh7WqOhtNwACya8w
> > From: "Chris Austin" <chris_aus...@symantec.com>
> > To: "Chris Austin" <chris_aus...@symantec.com>
> > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2010 21:56:57.0277 (UTC)
> > FILETIME=[08FD5ED0:01CAF6D5]
> > X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA==
> > Return-Path: mailer-dae...@mxgateway.npumail.com
> >
> > ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAF6D5.03EE53D6
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> >       charset="UTF-8"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> >
> > ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAF6D5.03EE53D6
> > Content-Type: text/html;
> >       charset="UTF-8"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> >
> >
> > ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAF6D5.03EE53D6--
> >
> > Any suggestions appreciated!
> >
> > ~JasonG
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 



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