I'll check on all that.  Thanks VERY much for all your help.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Kennedy, Jim
<kennedy...@elyriaschools.org>wrote:

> Or….you said you have Symantec doing spam filtering on your exchange server
> also? It could be generating these NDR’s. Is it set up to deliver an NDR if
> it classifies an email as spam? If so that is very very bad.
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> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 09, 2010 3:07 PM
>
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: undeliverables "clogging" que's
>
>
>
> Yep, that is an outgoing NDR from your Exchange server.  I stand by my
> initial guess if those messages are typical of what is filling your queue,
> outgoing  non-deliverables generated by your exchange server.  Your gateway
> tagged it as [Spam] then delivered it to your Exchange server. The exchange
> server can’t find the original recipient in your system so it generated the
> below outgoing NDR that is going to a bogus or non-functioning domain/email
> system.  The from is blank because Exchange does not want to create an
> endless loop of undeliverables, it knows it has enough problems already. J
>
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>
> Turn up your gateway spam filtering so this doesn’t get to your exchange
> server or fix the recipient verification system on it. The latter would be
> better and if it doesn’t do that you should replace it.  Also look at your
> gateway and find the original message with that subject, that will give you
> some clues.
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> *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 09, 2010 3:00 PM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: undeliverables "clogging" que's
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> *EXAMPLE #1*
>
> Identity: SOL-EXCH1\7101\13399
>
> Subject: Undeliverable: [Spam]  Make better food!
>
> Internet Message ID: <2f3623af-1a77-4f11-8232-907fba43ce07>
>
> From Address: <>
>
> Status: Ready
>
> Size (KB): 12
>
> Message Source Name: DSN
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> Source IP: 255.255.255.255
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> SCL: -1
>
> Date Received: 6/9/2010 1:46:12 PM
>
> Expiration Time: 6/11/2010 1:46:12 PM
>
> Last Error:
>
> Queue ID: SOL-EXCH1\7101
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> Recipients:  1-77031-sojourncare.com?abai...@jasper.broadcastdeal.info
>
> *EXAMPLE #2*
>
> Identity: SOL-EXCH1\7101\13396
>
> Subject: Undeliverable: [Spam]  Automobile Insurance � Compare and Save
> Instantly.
>
> Internet Message ID: <a27817aa-817d-42a9-b5e0-a8bb9847ece1>
>
> From Address: <>
>
> Status: Ready
>
> Size (KB): 11
>
> Message Source Name: DSN
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> Source IP: 255.255.255.255
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> SCL: -1
>
> Date Received: 6/9/2010 1:44:08 PM
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> Expiration Time: 6/11/2010 1:44:08 PM
>
> Last Error: 421 4.4.2 Connection dropped
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> Queue ID: SOL-EXCH1\7101
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> Recipients:  2insure4l...@overcomingfa.com
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> NO From:  address on any of the "undeliverables" that are now in the que.
> Recipient example 2 email domain not close to any accepted mail domain here.
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> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Jay Dale <jay.d...@3-gig.com> wrote:
>
> Last time I saw something like this, it was employees with Out Of Office
> messages sent out into the world rather than limiting them to internal
> recipients or Contacts.  They got sent to spammers who then used them for
> NDR’s and spoofs.
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> It might be a case where your network is secured but you just have to deal
> with the pains of the NDR’s until they eventually die down, which they will.
>
>
>
> *Jay Dale*
>
> I.T. Manager, 3GiG
>
> Mobile: 713.299.2541
>
> Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com
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> *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 09, 2010 12:18 PM
>
>
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* undeliverables "clogging" que's
>
>
>
> We are in the middle of a multi-domain migration from E2k3 servers to E2K7.
>  We had an outside consultant come in and set this all up.  We had some time
> constraints and unrelated hardware issues that have complicated this process
> at times, and things have not always gone smoothly(imagine that).
>  Everything seems to be working fine except that we have had reports of
> "missing email" and looked to find a que with hundreds of undelivered
> messages on the E2K7 Hub/CAS server.  80% or so of those messages are
> identified as "undeliverable".  When we manually delete the undeliverables
> the rest of the messages seem to go out just fine.  I'll be happy to provide
> more details about our setup, but I'm thinking that may be something someone
> else has seen and may be able to point us in the right direction to get this
> resolved???
>
>
>
> thanks for any help.
>
>
>
> Jeff
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