Ah...but if MSFT says "I don't support this specific particular use case" then 
people will take that WORD FOR WORD. Lawyers will pick it apart.

I don't like it either - but I understand why they do it. It's a balancing act, 
like so many other things.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 5:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Guidance on disks for Exchange 2010

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:34, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com> wrote:
> Microsoft is not in the business of supporting third party storage 
> systems. :-P

True, but they could explain the use case that is offending, couldn't they?

> If you call PSS and complain "Exchange is slow" and it's because every 
> time a new block is written to the database and this causes the 
> database to expand, the thinly-provisioned disk institutes a 100 ms 
> delay to allocate that additional storage, why would you expect Microsoft to 
> support that?

See - that wasn't so hard to describe, was it? A simple thing like that is 
*not* out of their reach.

> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 1:28 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Guidance on disks for Exchange 2010
>
> So, if I host my Exchange DB on a Lefthand that is thin provisioned, that's 
> unsupported?
>
> Or, continuing on my Lefthand example, I've shut down the VM, expanded the 
> space allocated to the drive on which the DB resides, then use diskpart to 
> expand the partition to the size of the allocated disk - this isn't supported?
>
> It's so very vague...
>
> Kurt
>
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 09:01, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com> wrote:
>> Note: I am not recommending you go against published guidance from MSFT.
>>
>>
>>
>> That being said – that recommendation is primarily against the 
>> original Hyper-V. VHDs created by the original version of Hyper-V, or 
>> disks that have been upgraded from Virtual Server or Virtual PC, expand 
>> quite slowly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Disks that are created by Hyper-V R2 are only a couple of percentage 
>> points slower than fixed size VHDs. Negligible.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know a number of companies that are running Hyper-V R2 
>> installations with variable disks. So far, at least, it hasn’t been an issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t know how (or even if) this impacts VMware or XenServer.
>>
>>
>>
>> So….to tie this back to your question, if the storage virtualization 
>> causes Exchange to notice whenever the disk expands, it’s not a good fit.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>>
>> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>>
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:35 AM
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: Guidance on disks for Exchange 2010
>>
>>
>>
>> In the virtualisation guide for Exchange 2010, in the section on 
>> storage this is written:
>>
>>
>>
>> Virtual disks that dynamically expand aren't supported by Exchange.
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know if this also applies to a disk presented to a 
>> physical server via some form of storage virtualisation appliance?
>> Said disk would be presented as 100GB, for example, and the OS would 
>> see 100GB, but would grow to reach this size at the storage level.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>
>
>


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