I've used them both. They both have their warts and advantages. I can tell you 
that both will do a very respectable job, but that you'll find holes with both 
that you don't expect.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 - A Practical Approach

Our network consists of around 2800 users, spread throughout the state of 
California.  Around 1200 of those are users that don't really have a true 
connection to the network.  They are wardens, scientists and the like that work 
out in the field, and connect to get e-mail over whatever kind of connection 
they can get.  We are also currently on XP still, and running Office XP.  Our 
plan consists of e-mail migration, network migration (to AD on Server 2k8R2), 
and desktop migration to Win7.  The only piece of this puzzle that we have a 
concrete due date on, at the moment, is the e-mail.  So, in this part of the 
migration, our plan is to migrate the backend to Exchange 2010, and use OWA for 
all users, internal and external, to connect to their mail.  We're looking at 
two vendors for the backend migration, Quest, and Message Architects.  If 
anyone has personal experience with either of these vendors, and their 
migration tools, we'd love to hear them.

>>> "Michael B. Smith" <[email protected]> 8/13/2010 4:36 PM >>>
I was of the belief that there was a GroupWise connector available for Outlook. 
Isn't that true?
Is it is true, you could migrate to Outlook first, and then migrate the 
backend...
Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com 

From: Lori Binner [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 2:46 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 - A Practical Approach

Hi Joe-
I'm hoping you'll post how your migration goes to the list so we can see how 
things went. We're on GroupWise too (it's been our only email for over 12 yrs 
now) but the rest of our network for everything else has migrated from NetWare 
to MS for a few yrs now and we'll be going to Exchange in the future, just not 
exactly sure when yet. I view this list trying to gain any bit of knowledge I 
can about Exchange to try and help.

We're having a difficult time deciding what's best to get our GroupWise 
appts/scheduling and emails to Exchange due to the calendaring/scheduling/busy 
searching being used VERY heavily here. We had a test environment with the MS 
Connectors/API gateway (to see if that could run for a few months while we 
slowly migrate users) and also tested Quest for getting their data migrated, 
but determined that a slow migration trying to rely on this old/unsupported 
technology was not the best from a user stand-point as their are some drawbacks 
to using this for appts. So looks like a very quick weekend or shortest 
migration possible will work best. Although our users seem to do better with 
slower phased approach, we may have to bite the bullet with as quick a 
migration as possible due to the scheduling.

Thanks, Lori

>>> Joseph Heaton <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>> 8/13/2010 1:31 PM >>>
I haven't gotten any books yet, but I just finished an Exchange 2010 class, in 
preparation for our migration from.... Groupwise.  Finally getting off the 
Novell side of the house.

>>> Jason Gurtz <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>> 8/10/2010 6:49 AM >>>
Yea, I think you may be right; it's pretty short too.  We're also going to be 
making the same migration.  Hopefully have most users on Office 2010 too.  Life 
is good.

~JasonG

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Maglinger, Paul 
> [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 09:37
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 - A Practical Approach
>
> I thinking more like Chapter 10.  We're moving from 2003.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Gurtz 
> [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]
> >
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 7:50 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 - A Practical Approach
>
> The 911 page book plopped on my desk yesterday.  I'm starting at 
> Chapter 14...  :)
>
> ~JasonG
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Maglinger, Paul 
> > [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]>
> > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 14:32
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: OT: Exchange 2010 - A Practical Approach
> >
> > Just got in my Exchange 2010 books!  One of them is Exchange 2010 - 
> > A Practical Approach.  A short read at 182 pages, I'm hoping this 
> > will
> get
> > me up to speed enough to get a server up and running to play on, 
> > then
> on
> > to the 911 and 813 page books for the nitty-gritty.  A quick thumb 
> > through looks good, and MBS is the Technical Reviewer.
> >
> > -Paul
> >
>
>
>
>













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