On 25 Aug 2005 at 17:07, Herb Martin wrote about
    "RE: [exim] Anti Phishing Trick":

|...
| > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Viles
| > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:31 PM
| > To: [email protected]
| > Subject: RE: [exim] Anti Phishing Trick
|...
| > Which is why message bodies should not be included in DSNs.

I should have added "to external senders".  Accept-then-full-bounce 
to local MUA submissions is reasonable and appropriate.

| BUT enough of the body NEEDS to be sent to make the rejection
| useful in most cases.

Interesting point.  How much is enough, do you think?  And is 
"enough" for legitimate messages less than "too much" for spam?  

I don't return bodies at all.  The headers already include the 
recpient, subject, and date.  The sender in most cases will get the 
DSN almost immediately after sending the failed message.  That should 
be sufficient to identify the message to the sender ISTM. 

The other use for returning the body is so the sender can resend if 
he didn't save a copy.  But in that case he needs the whole body to 
be useful.

It's a moot point for a lot of us, I guess, since we don't generate 
DSNs to external senders but once in a blue moon.  If then - OTTOMH I 
can't think of a scenario that would cause my system to generate one.

- Fred





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