On 15/04/2023 19:09, Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023, Sebastian Arcus wrote:

On 15/04/2023 18:44, Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023, Sebastian Arcus via Exim-users wrote:

I have a number of Exim servers behind a NAT gateway (actually connected with vpn's to a cloud vps - but I'm hoping this is not relevant to this post). I would like the gateway to send incoming port 25 traffic to the correct Exim server based on SNI in incoming TLS packets - as different Exim instances serve different email domains. The setup would look like this:

                     [Internet]
                         |
                         |
                   (smtp port 25)
                         |
                         v
                         |
                  [Cloud server]
                         |
                         v
                         |
      ----------------------------------------
      |                  |                   |
      |                  |                   |
[Exim server 1]    [Exim server 2]    [Exim server 3]


I would have preferred to do this at IP tables level - but apparently not really possible. It seems the next option would be HAProxy. Has anyone here used HAProxy or run a setup as above, or know if this is actually doable? Any suggestions much appreciated.


Since you have different domains, my first thought would just be to
assign them different MXes with different IPs ...

This is the situation now. But managing a full set of internet connections with fixed IP addresses and reverse dns records is turning into a major drag. Every time the internet connection on one of the boxes has to change provider, it becomes a whole project managing the migration, with downtime while the provider assigns a PTR record to the connection. On occasion it has taken 2 weeks. This is why I would like to have all boxes use one single public IP address and one PTR record through the VPS / cloud server for smtp purposes, with the VPS acting as a SMTP proxy / gateway.

Ah.

I've only done it with physical local machines, where
it was easy to move an ip address from one box to another.
I had an ip address for each box and one for each domain,
so I could just move the domain ip address to another machine
when necessary. No need to change the DNS at all.
Not necessarily something you can do with a cloud.

Sorry - I tried to keep the original question as simple as possible, hoping that would make it easier to answer.

The "back-end" machines are physical machines, on regular ADSL/VDSL/cable/fibre connections at various locations. At the moment they send directly to the internet, which requires a static IP and PTR record. The PTR record needs to be requested from the provider of the internet connection. This process has taken in the past anywhere between 3-14 days - depending on provider and luck finding a member of staff who knows what a PTR record is.

It also restricts the choice of internet providers to those who do provide PTR records. Also, if there is a fault with the internet connection and it gets replaced with a temporary (4G/5G) connection, the server effectively can't send and receive emails any more - for days or, worse case scenario, weeks at a time.

To solve all of the above issues, I am looking into essentially diverting all the outgoing and incoming smtp traffic of these servers through a single gateway server, which will be a vps/cloud server. Then the flow of emails on smtp will be able to continue uninterrupted, even when changing internet providers at various locations where the back-end servers are, or switching to an emergency/temporary internet connection.

I hope the above makes a bit more sense.

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