Is this the same ICICI Bank that claimed it would be No1 in Russia within 18 
months of opening???

----- Original Message ----
From: K K Neelamraju <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:33:27 AM
Subject: Re: Expat List Citi bank - complaining

Folks
 
I work for india's 2nd largest bank - ICICI Bank - which set up operations in 
Russia an year and a half ago... I just moved to moscow ofcourse, as a product 
manager for consumer banking...
 
Our interest rates are much better.. and we are moving up fast on the customer 
service learning curve!!
 
This feedback about a giant like Citibank definitely interests me!


2008/2/20 Emin Aliev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Well, maybe we should all do something about it?
 
How about starting our own bank! Or a Credit Union - first for expats, then - 
for everyone else! We will have the best interest rates in the country!  And 
low, low wire transfer fee for the money going overseas... ;-)
 
Who wants to chip in?  I've got a spare $2...
 
 
 
 
- Emin


----- Original Message ----
From: Vladimir Afanasev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]>


Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:35:22 PM
Subject: Re: Expat List Citi bank - complaining

Julian,

What will they do, can I ask you? Russian law prohibits western banks
to establish direct branches here. Citibank here is incorporated as
ZAO KB Citibank, it is purely a Russian company, with its own balance
sheet, P&L etc. What you see is just the brand name that you know, but
what's behind it is completely different from the west.

If Russia gets into a new financial crisis, Citibank in the US will
assume no obligations of ZAO KB Citibank in Russia if this Russian
bank also experiences financial difficulties. Same for Raiffeisen, it
is also another ZAO.

For me, roots of the problem lie not in the poor supervision from the
US management, they are in the poor state of the service sector in
Russia, the fact that its economy depends only on exports of oil and
gas, that there are numerous stupid regulations which make the conduct
of private business very difficult, widespread corruption,
deteriorated educational system, nepotism which makes young people
believe that working hard is useless because you will not achieve
anything, etc.

Of course there are positive sides like high oil prices, increasing
stabilisation fund, hard currency reserves, single party of power, etc
but all these benefits are not for you, Julian, not for myself, not for
many other people living in this country. Nobody will hear your voice.
Because there are so many people who will continue to use
Citibank/RZB/other banks just because they accept such service is
normal. 

All the best

Vladimir

Wednesday, February 20, 2008, 8:57:38 AM, you wrote:

> People, Don't just accept this! You all have access to the Internet!

> I just cut and pasted the last big email about citi bank and sent it to 
> the board of directors in America. ( I removed email addresses)

> You have a voice, use it!

> I 

> Julian Beirne
> Moscow

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