Hi Vincent,

I think the point of this mailing list is not to sell things over market price, 
but a place to sell items either at a fair (market) price or below.

I have sold things or promoted things on here in the past but have always 
believed that I was offering something special.

My belief is that this is a place for expats to help each other, not screw each 
other for every penny.

That's how it was in the "good old days" ;)

Regards,

Nick




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From: Vincent Vitlock <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: Vincent Vitlock <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, 20 January, 2009 11:24:33
Subject: Expat List  Re: Expat Digest, Vol 51, Issue 14

> Hi Nick,

Just as a side note to your comments. You were the one who a couple of months 
back were flogging 'Highly discounted immaculate cars/SUVS for sale', with a 
discounted price tag at 30%.

I say good on you Micah for trying to get as much money out of your stuff as 
you can. Well done! I would expect nothing less from anyone at this time of 
Crisis.

There are Expats who give all their belongings away when they move. There are 
Expats who give their apartments away without agency fee's. If you can, and 
have the luxury to do this. By all means. Well done.

But lets not clamp down on people who might need some of the money back from 
the goods that they bought, and trying to get as much back as possible.

With prices in Moscow being what they are, you can really find Russians selling 
old Ikea stuff for twice the price at some markets.....Why......Because..

I dont really need any stuff Micah...but please post if you sell something..and 
if you get twice as much for the stuff as you paid. I will be more than happy 
for you. That is truly the best offer you can get..

Vincent


> 
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:13:02 -0800 (PST)
> From: Nick REES <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Expat List Moving Sale- Furniture, Brand new
>     Entertainment  system,    kitchen, etc
> To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Micah,
> 
> I moving sale USUALLY means heavily discounted goods.......not stuff that is 
> available cheaper in the shop.
> 
> It's like some shops who put the price up by 100% and then advertise "50% 
> disount on everything."
> 
> Nobody's suggesting you "hold their hands" through an OBO (or best offer) but 
> a little less greed would probably have created a lot of "best offers".
> 
> I wish I hadn't replied now but I hate seeing fellow expats ripped 
> off.....and I'm not talking about me as I have no interest in any of the 
> goods.
> 
> Btw - if you only received one offer for one of your items and that was, for 
> example, $10, would you accept that "best offer"????
> 
> Rgds,
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Micah Risk <[email protected]>
> To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, 19 January, 2009 13:48:28
> Subject: Re: Expat List Moving Sale- Furniture, Brand new Entertainment  
> system, kitchen, etc
> 
> Well apparently you did not read thoroughly, or maybe you dont understand the 
> point of OBO. The point of selling things like this is, if people are 
> interested, they tell you what they are willing to pay. People are not 
> idiots, they know what a moving sale means. Or maybe I should expect to hold 
> hands with people through an OBO offer.
> 
> 
> 2009/1/16 Nick REES <[email protected]>
> 
> Micah,
> 
> I don't know whether you think people are fools on here (and I know you've 
> written "or best offer") but reducing your prices less than 20% for stuff 
> about a year old when the stores themselves are now reducing by more is 
> taking the piss a bit.
> 
> If this stuff is used and in good condition, usually people would expect to 
> see around about a 50% discount.
> 
> If people go online, they'll get better deals for brand new items at the 
> moment!
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Micah Risk <[email protected]>
> To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, 16 January, 2009 5:49:55
> Subject: Expat List Moving Sale- Furniture, Brand new Entertainment system, 
> kitchen, etc
> 
> 
> 
> We are moving out of Moscow and need to sell all of our stuff. Everything is 
> under 1 year old, and only used by 2 people for part of the year (or some of 
> it is not used at all!). So everything is still in excellent or good used 
> condition. We will be gone by mid-February, but are hoping to start selling 
> the things we do not use often. Located in the Izmaylova region.
> 
> 
> 
> IKEA furniture:
> 
> Red Corner couch (extremely comfortable!) seats at least 6 with matching 
> ottoman - new at Ikea 31 490 rubles +  4 990 rubles ; $1,124 + $179
> http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/S69839459 + 
> http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/S09828388
> Selling for $900 OBO
> 
> Dark wood bookcase(beautiful!!!) with glass doors plus additional matching 
> shelfing- Total: 20 960 r $747
> Large shelves X2- 3 690 rubles each = 7 380r $263 
> http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/20094031
> Glass doors X4- 1600 rubles each = 6400 r $228 
> http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/60104085
> Side sections X2- 2 690 rubles each = 5 380r $192 
> http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/20096431
> Height extender X2- 900 rubles each = 1 800r $64 
> http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/53689310
> Selling for $600 OBO
> 
> 6 DrawerDresser- 11 990 r $428 
> http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/30088572
> $370 OBO
> Wardrobe with sliding doors- $470 
> http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S99850921 (with horizontal pole 
> across both sides and pants rack that slides out) will include hangers
> $400 OBO
> 
> Modern Wood Bed + Mattress- Full size $500
> Others:
> -Pillows for couch and bed, down comforter & 2 sets of 
> sheets/pillowcases/comforter cover- $200
> -1 Extra brand new down comforter,never taken out of packaging,$145
> -6 Set of Glass food containers- $36 new 
> http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/40112543
> -Ikea 8 Glass spice containers-  
> http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/00030262 (like this but completely 
> round)
> -Ikea silver mixing bowls
> -Ikea pans- nonstick wok, nonstick frying pan- medium and large sizes- make 
> an offer
> Other Ikea stuff- large strainer, cooking utensils, can opener, knife set, etc
> all of the appliance/kitchen stuff will be sold by best offer.
> Entertainment System Summary:
> 1. AV Receiver: Yamaha
> Ampli-Tuner Audio Video
> Model: RX-V459
> New, never been opened. (MSRP was $400)
> 
> This Yamaha RX-V459 is any Home Theater buff's dream!!
> It has VERY clean bass and plenty of cranking power
> The RX-V459 has everything you need without any over kill.
> Even has a place to plug in your MP3 player and listen to it just like any 
> other component you'd
> The setup is very straight forward and well documented in the manual
> IF what I have found on the web is correct I believe the RX-V459 is a late 
> 2007 early 2008 model?
> Bottom line:
> If you want a super clean sounding unit without a ton of buttons...reasonable 
> price with lots of features...top notch quality inside and out...this Yamaha 
> is the way to go.
> Trust me it won't take long for you to fall in love with it!
> Strengths:
> The usual super Yamaha quality build and sound.
> Easy to navigate and setup.
> Plenty of features without being overwhelming!!!
> Place to plug in your MP3 player.
> (Don't see this on the higher end units for some reason)
> I like the -80db to +80db volume setup.
> At -27db it's pretty loud and ya haven't even got to 0db yet!!
> 
> 2. InfinityBeta HCS
> Complete 6-piece Home theater and music loudspeaker system
> 200 mm (8"), 100-watt, compact powered subwoofer w/ CMMD drivers
> Four magnetically shielded, 2-way satellites w/ CMMD drivers
> 2-way, magnetically shielded, voice-matched center speakers w/ CMMD drivers
> MSRP: $1500
> Also never taken out of the box, but bought as a display model so I'm willing 
> to knock the price down to $1200
> It's a really great system. Check out the following links if you're 
> interested:
> 1. Product Specifications: 
> http://www.infinitysystems.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=BETAHCS/230&ser=BET&Language=ENG&Region=EUROPE&Country=FI
> Both links have photos.
> 2. Description: http://www.infinityloudspeakers.com.au/beta.html
> 
> Again, these are in perfect condition, and haven't been used.
> If you buy them together I'll throw in another bonus and sell both for $1500 
> out of convenience.
> 
> 
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> commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one 
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