Thanks again Rebecca, I am not sure how we are meant to be trolls - I have no outside agenda and strongly dislike nastiness online or off (hence my original complaint!). It makes me sad to see legitimate concern answered with a nasty accusation - I didn't send my initial warning about Vadim and Liga Visa in order cause trouble. I did it because I had a genuinely upsetting experience and wanted to help others avoid the same. Advice and ideas for navigating Moscow is the raison d'être for this list, and I believe that advice about good firms and bad, including the bad Liga Consultant, has a place.
- Kimberly Some clarity on trolls: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet) On Monday, July 2, 2012, Jerome Dewald wrote: > To the extent that Kimberly wants to raise a complaint, I agree with you > and I respect her complaint. But this has now become a rant. > > Except for the occasional troll who would like only to prolong and inflame > the rant, I have heard no one else bring forth a similar or, in fact, any > complaint about Liga or Vadim. For this reason I think it is time for her > to stop badmouthing Vadim, let her complaint rest and let the rest of us > get on with something more interesting, like sex on airplanes, getting > drunk, or how bad the airlines and landlords are in Russia. > > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:21 AM, John Riley <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hey Jerome, > > Isn't it in all our interests to hear both the good & the not so good > about the services we need to avail ourselves of, especially given that > many of them are overpriced & come on many occasions with dubious customer > service?? If Kimberley (who I've never met) had a bad experience, is she > badmouthing by recounting what happened to her?? The heart of her dispute, > as she recounts it, was the reaction to a problem that she explains was of > Liga's making - perhaps in all your years they never got it wrong to the > extent that you had cause to complain. > My own personal experience in Russia is that there's insufficient > competition to the extent that standards of service fluctuate, & providers > become complacent. Thus I'm never surprise by how experiences vary > customer to customer. > I've used Liga in the past & was quite satisfied but if someone else > genuinely had a different experience I'm interested to hear about it. > Cheers > > > On 7/1/12 12:00 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >Send Expat mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat > >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] > > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] > > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >than "Re: Contents of Expat digest..." > > > > > >Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Expat List WARNING: Avoid Liga Consultant/Rusvis.org! > > (Jerome Dewald) > > 2. Re: WARNING: Avoid Liga Consultant/Rusvis.org! > > ([email protected]) > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >Message: 1 > >Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 11:00:07 +0400 > >From: Jerome Dewald <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: Expat List WARNING: Avoid Liga Consultant/Rusvis.org! > >To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]> > >Message-ID: > > <CAD+1ou_1VwNmkb3pTSAAn9UPOCsP18H8-S4=0M4XCtzQ1UfH= > [email protected]> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" > > > >I have lived in Moscow for more than 20 years. I have used Liga for many > >years now after having some lukewarm experiences with other visa services. > > Vadim has helped me out of numerous problems with my visas over the > >years. He is a lifesaver. I have never once had a problem with Liga or > >with Vadim. I have recommended him and his firm to my friends and never > >once have I heard that there was a problem. To the contrary, my friends > >have reported back to me that Liga provided excellent service and advice. > > > >I am sorry you have had a problem at Liga. But I cannot agree with you > >concerning your recommendation. I will continue to use Liga for all my > >visa needs and I will continue to recommend them to my friends and > >acquaintances. Of course, if something changes at Liga, I may change my > >mind. But my most recent visa through Liga was just last week and once > >again, Vadim came through just as he always has. He got me visas when no > >one else could. > > > >P.S. In the interest of full disclosure, I do not work for Liga, nor have > >I ever worked for them. I do not get any compensation from Vadim for any > >reason and I never > >
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