Mike....well, I've got a lan with 2 Linux systems, 1 nt system
and 3 win98 systems. One of the Linux computers is the
masquerading (gateway) system and has a 56k modem attached.
The other 5 systems connect to the internet through the
gateway system via the lan. It works just fine. I have no
trouble connecting with kppp while maintaining the lan
connections. So, what do we need to cover to get you running?
Alan
Mike & Tracy Holt wrote:
>
> No, actually, I am trying to connect to my lan (nics and hubs and all) and
> at the same time connect to the web using my modem (regular dial up
> connection).
>
> I'll take any suggestions though
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alan Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 11:01 AM
> Subject: [expert] Re: [newbie] Connecting to the Internet - why is it so
> difficult?
>
> > Kirk/Mike....if I'm reading this correctly you guys are both
> > trying to connect to other computers in a private lan and also
> > to connect to the internet via a wide-band connection such as
> > cable or dsl with a single nic card?
> >
> > If that is the case with you, then the problem is that you
> > need a second nic card and need to dedicate one of the nics to
> > the internet connection and the other to the lan.
> >
> > If I got the facts wrong, sorry for the intrusion.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> > Mike & Tracy Holt wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't think I really qualify as a Linux geek yet either... but here's
> my
> > > best shot.
> > > As far as your connection with kppp, it really shouldn't be that
> difficult.
> > > One thing I've noticed (and written to this list and the expert list
> about,
> > > nobody seemed to want to answer), is that you can either have a lan
> > > connection, or you can have an internet connection, but not both. I've
> been
> > > trying off and on for several months to figure out how to use NFS and
> such,
> > > but everytime I get to the point where I can ping another computer from
> the
> > > main on my own little network, then I lose the ability to connect to the
> > > web. Once I remove the network settings from my computer, I'm able to
> > > connect to the web again. Maybe that would be something you can try.
> Go
> > > into linuxconf and remove your other settings (eth0 or whatever) and
> then go
> > > back to kppp and run through the setup there. I've bookmarked a page
> from
> > > my isp that shows how to get kppp up and running, here it is:
> > > http://help.jps.net/unsupported/mandrake/
> > >
> > > If you have any luck getting both your internet AND your lan connection
> > > working at the same time, let me know! I'd love to be able to share
> files
> > > without having to boot into Windows!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > > OK, I'm not a real Linux geek... yet. I am a Mac user, and have been
> > > > successfully using Macs for more than ten years, without any major
> > > > problems. But for professional reasons, I wanted to get into Linux,
> and
> > > > chose Mandrake because it was supposed to be the simplest to get
> running.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <rant>
> > > > I see no need to have to edit files with cryptic commands when there
> are
> > > > GUI interfaces that do the same thing. So, to connect my computer to
> the
> > > > Internet, I tried to use Kppp. I am amazed that it does not work, and
> > > > that the only way to get it to work seems to be to read a ton of Linux
> > > > books and docs.
> > > >
> > > > So, here's what happened. First, following the instructions given in
> > > > some bacis Linux books, and the Mandrake doc (as well as doc on web
> > > > sites), I entered the necessary info in Kppp - account info, such as
> > > > phone number, user name, password, etc. I tried to connect. Zip.
> > > > Computer tells me
> > > >
> > > > >May 3 14:22:52 localhost pppd[917]: The remote system is required to
> > > > >authenticate itself but I couldn't find any secret (password) which
> would
> > > > >let it use an IP address.
> > > >
> > > > OK, this is wonderful. All the doc says it is so easy... Some kind
> > > > souls tell me that I need to add the "noauth" argument. OK, why do I
> > > > need to do this? I mean, why does it default to auth?
> > > >
> > > > But when I try to do this, Computer tells me that I can only do it as
> > > > root. Now, all the docs and books say, don't use root unless you
> really
> > > > need to. But if I can't connect to the Internet as a normal user, I
> need
> > > > to be root. So I log in as root, and "noauth" and get the connection
> up.
> > > > The connection, and nothing more.
> > > >
> > > > In spite of the fact that I have my ISPs DNS numbers correctly
> entered,
> > > > nothing happens. Computer is searching in the ether and cannot find
> any
> > > > nameservers. I try, on the advice of a kind soul on this list, to
> > > > uncomment the lines in the resolv.conf file, to no avail.
> > > >
> > > > So, still no connection.
> > > >
> > > > What gives? If everyone else can get a connection up, is there
> something
> > > > wrong with my installation or my computer? If the books and docs show
> it
> > > > is so easy, why I am having so many problems? And this noauth thing -
> > > > why do I have to add it, when, apparently, no one should need auth
> except
> > > > in special cases?
> > > >
> > > > I'm a bit taken aback by some of the stuff I need to do to get this up
> > > > and running. Especially because I have been hired to write tutorials
> > > > about Mandrake for a web site, and need to explain to others how to do
> > > > these things. Sure, most things work out ok, but when I see just how
> > > > complicated it is to get a simple ppp connection, I am really shocked.
> > > > (BTW, it was actually much easier to get my Linux box networked with
> my
> > > > Mac over AppleTalk; definately a power user thing, while a ppp
> connection
> > > > is really a basic).
> > > >
> > > > </rant>
> > > >
> > > > So, can anyone help?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kirk
> > > >
> > > >
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