Submitted 14-Aug-00 by Zaleski, Matthew (M.E.): > I disagree. I don't like vi but I learned enough to do some basic editing. > Vi is about the only full screen editor that's guaranteed to be on any > Unix/Linux box. At least knowing the basics of using it is valuable when > your system takes a dump. Well said. Ignoring arguments about vile vi or evil emacs or pokey pico, I invite any of you to grab a rescue disk at random (that's right, just mosey on over to freshmeat and grab a mini distro that fits on a floppy) and look at your choices for editors. vi. The reason is simple. It is on every *nix system (as the above poster mentioned) and in the stipped down "vi" mode, it's fairly light. Because it has been so pervasive for more than 20 years, it is (rightly) assumed that any admin with more than three brain cells has at least tried it in case he needed it. As a further test, for those of you who have (properly) partitioned your drive to have a small / with separate /usr and /home partitions, try going to runlevel 1 (maintenance mode). unmounting /usr and see what editors you have available (you guessed it: vi). -- Anton Graham GPG ID: 0x18F78541 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RSA key available upon request "I got everybody to pay up front...then I blew up their planet." "Now why didn't I think of that?" -- Post Bros. Comics