On Saturday 25 November 2000 18:51, you wrote:

> > You need to understand a little history.  When the QT libs were not
> quite 100% open source (only about 99.8%) the folks at RedHat got up
> on their high horse and said "Never!"  And so they invented/commissioned
> "Gnome."  Everybody else was going with KDE, but RH was "holier than thou."
> Now they feel silly, since QT has made the libs fully open source, but
> since they put their (gnome)foot in their mouth bigtime, they don't
> know any way to get out, and like Microsoft, they would like to foist
> "their" GUI on everybody.  --doug
>
Interesting reading.  I don't see things that way at all.  In the first 
place, there's the interesting question of whether QT ever would have become 
really open source if there hadn't been a challenge.  In the second place, 
there still isn't an open-source version for Win32.  In the third place, 
Gnome is doing quite well, thank you.  It's even spawning independant 
companies.

Personally, I consider Gnome as another reason why those who believe in Open 
Source (or Free Software) owe a debt of gratitude to Red Hat.  KDE is still 
the more polished, but I just checked my screen, and I'm running Gnome right 
now (with KMail to handle the mail).  

For the last week or so, I've been using Konqueor about as much as I use 
Mozilla, and dipping into Netscape occasionally.  But I may switch back to 
KDE after the next update.  They're pretty close in terms of quality.  But 
having both protects against one of them somehow being taken private.  (I 
know this isn't supposed to be possible, but lawyers have been known to 
perform miracles.)


-- 
Charles Hixson
Mandala Fluteworks

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