For both Nautilus and evolution I tried the update scripts.
I started helix-update, connected to the evolution snapshot site. The
version they were offering was dated 12/29/00. I get "There were conflicts
attempting to install this update: libgtkhtml.so.4- is needed by
perl-GTK-GtkHTML-0.7003-4mdk. Since I am not sure if any programs are
relying on it so I don't want to UN-install it.
For Nautilus I get the script from the eazel site and run sh
./eazel-installer.sh. It connects to the servers and I step through the
dialogs. Right before it start to download rpms it tells me Mandrake 7.2
isn't a supported release. So I download the redhat 6.2 rpms as previously
mentioned and give them a run through and get dependency errors relating to
rpm, libbz2.so.0, bonobo, libbonobo.so, libefs.so, libghttp, Gconf and
gnome-vfs all being need by various packages. I download the devel package
like they suggest and they don't want to install either
I think at this point I can live with out Nautilus, it looked nice enough to
try, but I am disappointed with Evolution. I really wanted to give that a
run since it seems look like it is what I am after.
O the quandaries, should I stop while I still have a functioning system or
push the edge a little further? I am begining to think if I want this to
work I am looking at source code and compiles :(
On Monday 12 February 2001 20:27, Bill Piety wrote:
> What rpm's did you dl & try to install? When I started this, I brought
> all Helix rpms up to the version on the Helix website pkg list. Then I
> dl'd & got Nautilus up & running. Once there, I dl'd just the Evo rpm to
> see what dependency issues might still exist. Only 2 other pkgs to
> install at that point. The stable Evo version is from 1/13. I'm waiting
> for a concensus from the list as to the next one to grab. I've made this
> my day-to-day mail app and can't afford stability issues.
>
> On 12 Feb 2001 12:48:37 -0500, Jerry Sternesky wrote:
> > I download the redhat 6.2 rpms from the Nautilus site, when I tried to do
> > the install the using rpm -Uhv --replacepkgs *.rpm I got lib errors. So
> > I downloaded all the devel packages as well and tried to give them a run,
> > some of the lib error when away. But many still exists. I did the
> > helix-update and gimp was the only package that needed to be upgraded, so
> > I did it. But that didn't make a difference. BTW I did a "development"
> > install of Mandrake 7.2, so that may be why there are a lot of lib's
> > still causing conflicts. I really don't like doing no-dep installs, so I
> > may just let this stop at helix for now. :(
> >
> > On Monday 12 February 2001 11:41, Bill Piety wrote:
> > > Go ahead and get Nautilus running with no deps or issues. Once you're
> > > there, you should be able to download & run Evo's latest PR. We never
> > > seem to have this much fun with other OS'es, do we?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jerry Sternesky
> > > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 10:27 AM
> > > To: Neal Lippman; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [expert] gnome questions
> > >
> > >
> > > I did a test install on my second machine, which fortunately was my
> > > prvious client, so usb and all was configured and working on that pc.
> > > So I moved my craddle over and gave it a test after the install. The
> > > sync was a no-go. After much trial and error, I tried downloading the
> > > source rpm for gnome-pilot helix style and recompiled with the
> > > visor=yes option. That nailed it. The sync worked. I still have an
> > > issue with cards not being updated and it times out when backing up
> > > advantgo, heck the conduit does even
> > > work. So we could say I have 3 problems, but the malsync is the lowest
> > > on my
> > > list.
> > >
> > > I figured I would then use the helix-update give evolution user preview
> > > a run, I got dependency errors when it went to install. So I bagged
> > > the evolution stuff for the moment. I may give Nautilus a shot and
> > > then go back to evolution. I still have decided if I am going to put
> > > this on my main client yet
> > >
> > > I got lucky and figured out how to add gnome to the kdm menu, then I
> > > saw an an email that pass through this group yesterday that detailed
> > > how to get helix-gnome into the kdm menu. It was exactly the same
> > > steps I followed. Sort of I put the wrong exec in the first time.
> > >
> > > I have sound on the other machine, but is running a sound blaster live
> > > card and that thing has never missed on Mandrake. The machine with no
> > > sound under
> > > gnome has the intel on-board sound card. If I get all else under
> > > gnome, I may live with out sound if it isn't there and switch to kde
> > > for multi-media stuff.
> > >
> > > On Sunday 11 February 2001 19:57, Neal Lippman wrote:
> > > > I tried the Ximian Gnome install too; it was hard to do because the
> > > > d/l of the files using their automated installer kept hanging and
> > > > needing to be restarted. Once I had everything d/l'd and installed, I
> > > > made the ?mistake of telling it to keep my current login manager
> > > > (kdm); when I tried to
> > >
> > > relog
> > >
> > > > in, neither gnome nor sawfish were in the choices for desktops.
> > > >
> > > > I also tried d'l'ing just Evolution to install just that (I have all
> > > > the base gnome libraries installed from the original MDK install, so
> > > > I figured I had the support libraries I would need, but was put off
> > > > by the
> > >
> > > negativity
> > >
> > > > of the install README, so I decided to bail and wait until version
> > > > 1.0 comes out.
> > > >
> > > > On thing I do note, though, is when I log in to gnome from kdm, I do
> > > > seem to have sound ...
> > > >
> > > > On Sunday 11 February 2001 11:54, Bill Piety wrote:
> > > > > I have a stable Ximian (Helix) Gnome, with Nautilus & Evolution
> > > > > (which is great). According to the Evo mailing lists, the pilot
> > > > > sync'ing works - don't have one myself. Are you using the stock CD
> > > > > Gnome? If so it may be worth your time to 'upgrade'. As for the
> > > > > sound in Gnome, for some reason I have to keep Gmix active for
> > > > > sound - that's a mystery I haven't been able to solve. I'm using
> > > > > Alsa drivers for my AC97, but check a mixer anyway. Doesn't seem to
> > > > > matter which wm I try, either.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10 Feb 2001 21:05:56 -0500, Jerry Sternesky wrote:
> > > > > > I have a stock 7.2 install, X 4.02, all the update patches except
> > > > > > for cups. I keep getting dependency errors when I try to install
> > > > > > that. Another issue for another time. Does anyone have a stable
> > > > > > gnome? I installed, both KDE and Gnome, I have full sound in
> > > > > > KDE, none in
> > >
> > > gnome.
> > >
> > > > > > When ever I exit gnome x-windows crashes. I compiled gnome-pilot
> > > > > > with --enable-usb-visror=yes and gnome-pilot-conduits. I can get
> > > > > > the visor to sync and get the user name, however, it errors on
> > > > > > the office conduits when attempting a sync. When I try to
> > > > > > configure any of the other conduits, it crashes and complains it
> > > > > > is mis-configured.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am looking for a way to use my visor info in an intergrated
> > > > > > desktop and gnome appeared to be ahead on this, but the issue
> > > > > > with the desktop stability is not leaving a good impression.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While jpilot is a nice application and functions well, it doesn't
> > > > > > give me all I want. Any thoughts, suggestions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW on an old install, I didn't have much luck with kpilot so I
> > >
> > > figures
> > >
> > > > > > I would give gnome a shot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jerry
