OK

Our kernel is sluggish when it sees certain chipsets.  The infamous 686B southbridge 
bug made its
debut as "confirmed by the manufacturer" a little more than a week before release of 
8.0.  A quick hack to
cripple oneself if certain chipset(s) were seen was done to prevent a potentially huge 
source of
data corruption.

Some chipsets which had not the bug get swept by the filter.

Some with the buggy southbridge get missed because the signature isn't there (no 
autosetting BIOS,
no dodge for Creative Soundcards)

So, don't believe hdparm -i.  If your computer appears sluggish, run hdparm -t 
/dev/whateverdrive
and if you see like 1.68Mb/s you are in PIO mode.  To get out of it install 
kernel22-2.2.19-10mdk
where you will work without sluggishness.  We are still trying to make a kernel update 
that
handles supermount, recognizes lm_sensors, recognizes vfat, and does a good job with 
netfilters.

kapm-idled is not a process and it doesn't suck up resources.  It puts a notebook 
processor a little
more deeply asleep and tries to save power and it also accounts for idle cycles.

List courtesy is a matter for list participants.  On occasion I have been sharp with 
people who did not 
research their complaints adequately, but only if I got the impression that the person 
was a "taker" who
never contributed to the list.  The participants of this list may find it a little odd 
from time to time that
RedHat questions get asked and answered here, but those immigrants from the RH lists 
who ran out 
of flame-retardant underwear know why this is done.

So whether this list remains a helpful place or becomes a flame list is up to the 
participants.  Whether or not
it remains open is a matter for the list owner.  If it becomes a place where users 
have a negative 
experience, then it is not in the owner's interests to keep it open.  Right now of 
course it is very
much a place to come for help.  (and occasionally read flames to mandrake from 
engineers who believe
in much stricter standards or who want to wring their hands that the kernel doesn't 
compile with their 
favorite compiler).

Civileme

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