On Saturday 08 September 2001 12:38, Michael D. Viron wrote: > At 05:01 PM 09/08/2001 +0200, joy_ping wrote: > >On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Moving from mdk7.2 to 8.0 required a complete reinstall to make > >> sure no "ghosts from the past" remain to cause problems. > > > >this is a mandrake thing i think. cause they have some misteries directory > >organisation, and they changed it so hard, that it is completly different > >from the further releases. its not only unusable for other software, its > >unusable for the mandrake-made-updatetools too!! > The "Mysterious Directory Organizaion" you speak of is available at various web sites. I happen to keep a copy because I refer to it often in my job as a QA engineer. http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~civileme/fhs-2.2.pdf This is what is known as "standardization" .... It is required by the linux standard base. It is an effort to make it possible for independent software vendors to write applications that will run on linux, not just a specific distribution platform. Now as far as integrated menus, that is used by Debian, Connectiva, and Mandrake. Some Desktops don't like it, preferring their own menuiong systems, and we have tried to accommodate the one making the most noise by allowing users to choose under GNOME which menu they wish to see. Obviously, anyone installing software not supplied by mandrake, particularly on desktops, is likely to have less than fully supported upgrade. The Update is less than satisfactory in any case, and seems to remain so, but the story is no different for anyone else. Remember the horros stories of those who did an upgrade from W95 to W98? And if they had 3rd part software? >From 7.2 to 8.0 is a particularly steep grade. New libraries, especially glibc which broke binary compatibility with what went before, rpm 4 instead of rpm 3, a new compiler, a new library naming policy (to prevent the same situation from occurring again, and a new packaging policy dictated by the new library naming policy). This made the UPgrade really steep, because one package in 7.2 might be three in 8.0, something no update program was equipped to deal with including rpm. But there is no mystery on any of this, just ask, and read. Civileme
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