thanks, I had already installed djgpp, it came with the sams 24hour book...
Altough linux programming is my final goal, I want to start with windows, think it might be easier... Hell, I'd use Visual C++ if I though M$ hadn't changed it away from the standard that much.. So it looks like Borland tools might be the go... rgds Frank -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adrian Lynch Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2001 12:29 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE:[expert]C++ for newbies... I'm in roughly the same position, except for the fact that I'm coming from a web background, html, small bit of JavaScript, even smaller bit of ColdFusion. I've started down the road that is C++ and Java. I use DJGPP for C++ on Windows, and Sun's JDK for Java, both on Windows. I have very little experience with computers in general, nine months at the most, and I found installing and using these to be fairly easy. One problem with packages like these is they never give you a straight forward answer. You often just want to know how to compile, or initially install. An idiots guide would be good, but it's never the case is it? But I think if I can do it, almost anyone else can!! I think I have the same book as you, the 24hr one, but I've yet to read a book that answers all my initial questions, they always omitt bits of info that you want to know about. I have one Java book that doesn't tell you the syntax for Standard Input till near the end, having done a bit of C++ just before this, I wanted to know what it was straight away!! But anyway, get the ones I use and you should be happy, unless someone has a reason not to. Ade -----Original Message----- From: Franki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 October 2001 16:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] C++ for newbies... Hi all, I want to start playing with C++, I have written a good many perl scripts and I think its time to tackle a compiled language, something to cater to speed requirements... I arrived at C++ or JAVA, so I rushed out and got books on both,, Java in a Nutshell, and Sams Teach yourself C++ in 24 hours... Now I actually find the C++ book easier to read, (after the camel book, its positively easy to read.) So I have decided to start with C++... now I have a few questions and I am hoping someone here could perhaps help me out here.... 1. I just tried the hello world app on in the sames book out of curiosity and it told me that it couldn't find the include iostream.h now my linux box was installed as a dev install and I basically installed anything that didn't conflict... There is no file called iosteam.h on that box, so I am assuming that its part of a windows package???? Does anyone have any recommendations for a windows and a linux compiler? I used g++ to try and compile hello world, what other choises do I have and what reasons would I choose one over the other... Ditto for the windows enviroment if anyone here has anything to do with it... (I just want to learn I don't care about the windows/linux/macos/etc etc... its just about me learning this..) I have actually found that book to be quiet readable, so if you are looking for a book on C++ you could do worse... its somethign of a shock to step out of nice sedate perl into c++, which is annoying because I want to learn c and Java immediatly afterwards, then ASP and some get better at PHP, I have alot of learning ahead of me... up till now, VB and perl were the only two languages (apart from html and Javascript) that I had any decent knowledge in... I think I should have started with C++ it would have been harder, but I would have found perl alot easier at first... not that it was all that hard anyway,, but c++ and java have more in common when either of them do with perl.,... and compiling and linking is all very new.... Any help would be most appreciative... rgds Frank
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