[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> "ps -auxw" 

> By the way, this is not a question of confusing START time with
> TIME running (see below again).  

Sorry, my output from ps -auxw looks different than yours.  On my
Mandrake 8.1 it has columns for a (start) date, and a (total run) time,
but they are side by side so it is easy to be confused and believe they
are a start date and time.  Likewise on my Mandrake 7.2 installation. 
(Aside: I wonder why the difference? -- You seem to have a start *time*
instead of date, and the (total run) time that I have.)

Anyway, the output from your ps -auxw truly is confusing, and I can't
offer an explanation (other than the possibilities others have
mentioned, like a restart that you aren't aware of or something equally
bizarre or unlikely).  

>    (1) Before I sent the initial message, I checked the archives on the newbie
>        and expert lists and could not find any related item (mind you, it is not 
>obvious
>        to do a search with "ps" or "startup" as keywords...).  I also read what
>        I thought were the relevant manual pages (but maybe I missed some...).
> 
>    (2) I sent this message to the expert list, rather than the newbie, because I
>        genuinely thought the answer was not obvious (I could of course be very
>        wrong! I might add hopefully...).
> 
>    (3) Despite the fact I felt some "guilt" at starting this "newbie versus expert"
>        thread, there is one thing that sticks to my mind: it is that people 
>expressing
>        their opinions on this list do it in a frank and polite way.  In that respect,
>        Randy Kramer's PS to my initial message deserves mention!

Thanks for all of the above, and *thanks to all who provided comments*
on the "newbie vs. expert" thread.  I truly was trying to understand the
thinking process of those who might post on one vs. the other,
especially when the results were contrary to what I think I would have
done.  (Understanding your problem more correctly now, I think I would
have posted it on the expert list.)

And, as others have said (variously): 
   * if it ain't broke, don't fix it
   * there is not a lot of noise (of this nature) on the expert or
beginner's list, so an occasional newbie question on the expert list is
not a big  (or vice versa)
   * the more annoying problem is cross posts (that, AFAICT, don't
happen that often either)
   * these lists are among the most useful and effective I've found,
which is a credit to the people on the lists -- polite, tolerant,
helpful, knowledgable, etc.

regards,
Randy Kramer

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