civileme grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>
> David Guntner wrote:
> 
> >KevinO grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> >>
> >>During bootup the kernel needs to read /etc/fstab to know what other 
> >>filesystems (partitions) to mount where. If /etc/fstab is not in the
> >>root filesystem, the system will never be able to finish mounting the
> >>filesystems.
> >
> >That's a good point.  I hadn't thought of that.
> >
> >But it's still annoying. :-)  It just makes more sense now.  Thanks for the 
> >reality check.
> 
> Actually, making separate filesystems of any of the following will stop 
> the system in its tracks:
> 
> /etc, /bin, /lib, /sbin
> 
> Those really need to be in /.  

Agreed, now that I'm thinking straight. :-)

> Now as for
> 
> alias rm rm -i

I don't recall complaining about the rm alias.... :-)

> suppose you are typing
> 
> rm -r /somepath/.somecorruptedconfigdir -f
> 
> and at the point where you have typed
> 
> rm -r /
> 
> The cat jumps up to get your attention and lands a paw on <Enter>.
> 
> Are you going to chuckle because you didn't type -f and the -i is 
> already aliased in?  Or are you going to determine if cat really tastes 
> like chicken because you didn't have -i?  

I'd be determining if the cat really tastes like chicken, because when I 
want to get rid of a directory recursively, I type

rm -rf /the/directory/to/delete

Assuming that I'm not above the directory that I want to get rid of.  
99.999% of the time (I'm sure it's actually 100%, but I'm allowing for the 
possibility that I might do it the other way), if I want to get rid of a 
directory, I will cd to the directory above the one that I want to get rid 
of, and then just

rm -rf directoryname

Which is much less dangerous than typing anything starting with "/" when 
using those options. :-)

> Finally, we are targeting windows desktop migrants and NT server 
> migrations rather than trying to draw customers away from other linux 
> distros, so you can expect an approach that does a little hand-holding 
> as the audience has come to expect.  (They say we don't do enough, 
> especially when they blow up their systems using the update program on a 
> kernel --  well look at our new kernel update numbering--it won't show 
> as an update--have to DL and install)

I'm glad to hear that. :-)  When I was new to Mandrake, I was certainly one 
of the people who got caught by that when it still showed up.  rpmdrake 
didn't give any warnings about using it on a kernel.  I know better *now*, 
but it wasn't until it was too late that I learned that lesson....

                     --Dave
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