Mike,

(BTW thanks to others who have replied, too.  I need all the help I can get.
:-)

My most recent attempt was to re-run X Config from install, using the
detected SiS card but selecting XFree-3.  This gives a screen that is now
very close to being usable.  That is, I can click on everything, but the
display only takes up 2/3 of the screen, then the right 1/3 is a frizzy
repeat of part of the main display.  Also, I get artifacts (mostly across
the top) and highlighted areas sometimes get blacked-out.  It's hard to
describe; the point is it's not really usable, although I can at least
navigate my way through most of it.  The first-time wizard was not usable,
however.  (BTW, will I be able to run that later?)

Still can't figure out how to configure the card as vesa, as you suggested
yesterday, unless I do it as XFree-4 X server.  I can try that if you think
it might yield some clues.  That will produce a log file with errors.

With the configuration above (detected SiS card and XFree-3), I don't get
any log file, presumably because X doesn't think there's anything wrong.  I
am listing the XF86Config-4 and XF86Config files below.  Please let me know
what you think, and if you can remember how to configure as generic vesa.
I'll be happy to keep trying different things as long as someone keeps
responding.  :-)

Also, I couldn't figure out where to turn off X, so that it will boot into
console mode instead of automatically starting X.  Is there an easy way to
toggle that without re-running xconfig?

Thanks again,
Tim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:expert-owner@;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Mike Morrell
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:54 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] need help to configure X
>
>
> Tim,
>
> Try this to post your XF86config-4 file and xfree log file.
> [...]
> Post those two files here.
>

=====================
HERE IS XF86Config-4:
=====================
# File generated by XFdrake.

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"
    # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
    # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent
of
    # the X server to render fonts.
    FontPath "unix/:-1"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    #DontZap # disable <Crtl><Alt><BS> (server abort)
    AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse
doesn't work
    #DontZoom # disable <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
    Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
    Load "extmod"
    Load "type1"
    Load "freetype"
    Load "glx" # 3D layer
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Keyboard1"
    Driver "Keyboard"
    Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option "XkbLayout" "us"
    Option "XkbOptions" ""
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Mouse1"
    Driver "mouse"
    Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
    Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "monitor1"
    VendorName "Plug'n Play"
    ModelName "NEC MultiSync FP1370"
    HorizSync 31-130
    VertRefresh 55-160

    # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
    # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1024x480"    65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344   480  488  494
 563 -hsync -vsync

    # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"     50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595  630

    # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"     63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590  616
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier "device1"
    VendorName "Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]"
    BoardName "SiS 6326"
    Driver "sis"
    Option "DPMS"

    Option "sw_cursor"
    # Option "no_accel" # Use this if acceleration is causing problems
    # Option "fifo_moderate"
    # Option "fifo_conserv"
    # Option "fifo_aggresive"
    # Option "fast_vram"
    # Option "pci_burst_on"
    # Option "xaa_benchmark" # DON'T use with "ext_eng_queue" !!!
    # Option "ext_eng_queue" # Turbo-queue. This can cause drawing
    # errors, but gives some accel
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "screen1"
    Device "device1"
    Monitor "monitor1"
    DefaultColorDepth 24

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 8
        Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 15
        Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 16
        Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 24
        Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
    EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "layout1"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    Screen "screen1"
EndSection
=====================
HERE IS XF86Config-4:
=====================
# File generated by XFdrake.

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"
    # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
    # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent
of
    # the X server to render fonts.
    FontPath "unix/:-1"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    #DontZap # disable <Crtl><Alt><BS> (server abort)
    AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse
doesn't work
    #DontZoom # disable <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)
EndSection

Section "Keyboard"
    Protocol "Standard"
    XkbModel "pc105"
    XkbLayout "us"
    XkbOptions ""
EndSection

Section "Pointer"
    Protocol "IMPS/2"
    Device "/dev/psaux"
    ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "monitor1"
    VendorName "Plug'n Play"
    ModelName "NEC MultiSync FP1370"
    HorizSync 31-130
    VertRefresh 55-160

    # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
    # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1024x480"    65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344   480  488  494
 563 -hsync -vsync

    # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"     50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595  630

    # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"     63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590  616

    # This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor
spec
    # are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and
    # VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to
    # delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your
    # monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor
    # and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically
    # used.

    # 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "640x400"     25.175 640  664  760  800   400  409  411  450

    # 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "640x480"     25.175 640  664  760  800   480  491  493  525

    # 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "800x600"     36     800  824  896 1024   600  601  603  625

    # 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 35.5 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1024x768"    44.9  1024 1048 1208 1264   768  776  784  817
Interlace

    # 640x400 @ 85 Hz, 37.86 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "640x400"     31.5   640  672 736   832   400  401  404
 445 -HSync +VSync

    # 640x480 @ 75 Hz, 37.50 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "640x480"    31.5   640  656  720  840   480  481  484
 500 -HSync -VSync

    # 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "800x600"     40     800  840  968 1056   600  601  605  628
+hsync +vsync

    # 640x480 @ 85 Hz, 43.27 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "640x480"     36     640  696  752  832   480  481  484
 509 -HSync -VSync

    # 1152x864 @ 89 Hz interlaced, 44 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1152x864"    65    1152 1168 1384 1480   864  865  875  985
Interlace

    # 800x600 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "800x600"     50     800  856  976 1040   600  637  643  666
+hsync +vsync

    # 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1024x768"    65    1024 1032 1176 1344   768  771  777
 806 -hsync -vsync

    # 640x480 @ 100 Hz, 53.01 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "640x480"     45.8   640  672  768  864   480  488  494
 530 -HSync -VSync

    # 1152x864 @ 60 Hz, 53.5 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1152x864"   89.9  1152 1216 1472 1680   864  868  876
 892 -HSync -VSync

    # 800x600 @ 85 Hz, 55.84 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "800x600"    60.75  800  864  928 1088   600  616  621
 657 -HSync -VSync

    # 1024x768 @ 70 Hz, 56.5 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1024x768"    75    1024 1048 1184 1328   768  771  777
 806 -hsync -vsync

    # 1280x1024 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 51 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1280x1024"   80    1280 1296 1512 1568  1024 1025 1037 1165
Interlace

    # 800x600 @ 100 Hz, 64.02 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "800x600"    69.65  800  864  928 1088   600  604  610
 640 -HSync -VSync

    # 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1024x768"    85    1024 1032 1152 1360   768  784  787  823

    # 1152x864 @ 70 Hz, 62.4 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1152x864"   92    1152 1208 1368 1474   864  865  875  895

    # 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1280x1024"  110    1280 1328 1512 1712  1024 1025 1028 1054

    # 1400x1050 @ 60 Hz, 65.5 kHz
    ModeLine "1400x1050" 122.0 1400 1488 1640 1880   1050 1052 1064 1082
+HSync +VSync

    # 1024x768 @ 85 Hz, 70.24 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1024x768"   98.9  1024 1056 1216 1408   768 782 788
822 -HSync -VSync

    # 1152x864 @ 78 Hz, 70.8 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1152x864"   110   1152 1240 1324 1552   864  864  876  908

    # 1280x1024 @ 70 Hz, 74.59 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1280x1024"  126.5 1280 1312 1472 1696  1024 1032 1040
1068 -HSync -VSync

    # 1600x1200 @ 60Hz, 75.00 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1600x1200"  162   1600 1664 1856 2160  1200 1201 1204 1250
+HSync +VSync

    # 1152x864 @ 84 Hz, 76.0 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1152x864"   135    1152 1464 1592 1776   864  864  876  908

    # 1280x1024 @ 75 Hz, 79.98 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1280x1024"  135    1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066
+HSync +VSync

    # 1024x768 @ 100Hz, 80.21 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1024x768"   115.5  1024 1056 1248 1440  768  771  781
 802 -HSync -VSync

    # 1400x1050 @ 75 Hz, 82.2 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1400x1050" 155.8   1400 1464 1784 1912  1050 1052 1064 1090
+HSync +VSync

    # 1600x1200 @ 70 Hz, 87.50 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1600x1200"  189    1600 1664 1856 2160  1200 1201 1204
1250 -HSync -VSync

    # 1152x864 @ 100 Hz, 89.62 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1152x864"   137.65 1152 1184 1312 1536   864  866  885
 902 -HSync -VSync

    # 1280x1024 @ 85 Hz, 91.15 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1280x1024"  157.5  1280 1344 1504 1728  1024 1025 1028 1072
+HSync +VSync

    # 1600x1200 @ 75 Hz, 93.75 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1600x1200"  202.5  1600 1664 1856 2160  1200 1201 1204 1250
+HSync +VSync

    # 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz, 105.77 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1600x1200"  220    1600 1616 1808 2080  1200 1204 1207 1244
+HSync +VSync

    # 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz, 106.3 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1600x1200" 229.5   1600 1664 1856 2160  1200 1201 1204 1250
+HSync +VSync

    # 1280x1024 @ 100 Hz, 107.16 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1280x1024"  181.75 1280 1312 1440 1696  1024 1031 1046
1072 -HSync -VSync

    # 1800x1440 @ 64Hz, 96.15 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1800X1440"  230    1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490
+HSync +VSync

    # 1800x1440 @ 70Hz, 104.52 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1800X1440"  250    1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490
+HSync +VSync

    # 1920x1440 @ 60 Hz, 90.0 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1920x1440"  234.0  1920 2048 2256 2600 1440 1441 1444
1500 -HSync +VSync

    # 1920x1440 @ 75 Hz, 112.5kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1920x1440"  297.0  1920 2064 2288 2640 1440 1441 1444
1500 -HSync +VSync

    # 512x384 @ 78 Hz, 31.50 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "512x384"    20.160 512  528  592  640   384  385  388
 404 -HSync -VSync

    # 512x384 @ 85 Hz, 34.38 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "512x384"    22     512  528  592  640   384  385  388
 404 -HSync -VSync

    # Low-res Doublescan modes
    # If your chipset does not support doublescan, you get a 'squashed'
    # resolution like 320x400.

    # 320x200 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio
    ModeLine "320x200"     12.588 320  336  384  400   200  204  205  225
Doublescan

    # 320x240 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio
    ModeLine "320x240"     12.588 320  336  384  400   240  245  246  262
Doublescan

    # 320x240 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "320x240"     15.750 320  336  384  400   240  244  246  262
Doublescan

    # 400x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio
    ModeLine "400x300"     18     400  416  448  512   300  301  302  312
Doublescan

    # 400x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "400x300"     20     400  416  480  528   300  301  303  314
Doublescan

    # 400x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "400x300"     25     400  424  488  520   300  319  322  333
Doublescan

    # 480x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio
    ModeLine "480x300"     21.656 480  496  536  616   300  301  302  312
Doublescan

    # 480x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "480x300"     23.890 480  496  576  632   300  301  303  314
Doublescan

    # 480x300 @ 63 Hz, 39.6 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "480x300"     25     480  496  576  632   300  301  303  314
Doublescan

    # 480x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "480x300"     29.952 480  504  584  624   300  319  322  333
Doublescan
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier "device1"
    VendorName "Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]"
    BoardName "SiS 6326"
    Option "power_saver"

    Option "sw_cursor"
    # Option "no_accel" # Use this if acceleration is causing problems
    # Option "fifo_moderate"
    # Option "fifo_conserv"
    # Option "fifo_aggresive"
    # Option "fast_vram"
    # Option "pci_burst_on"
    # Option "xaa_benchmark" # DON'T use with "ext_eng_queue" !!!
    # Option "ext_eng_queue" # Turbo-queue. This can cause drawing
    # errors, but gives some accel
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Driver "svga"
    Device "device1"
    Monitor "monitor1"
    DefaultColorDepth 24

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 8
        Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 15
        Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 16
        Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 24
        Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 32
        Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
    EndSubsection
EndSection

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