<devil's advocate>
at its most basic:

  vi <filename> (or vim; in mdk, vi is just a link to vim)
  i (for insert mode)
    <make all changes; arrow keys, pgup/pgdn all work>
  Esc (exit insert mode, return to command mode)
  :wq (: = enter command line, "w" = write file to current
filename, "q" = quit vi(m))

4 commands from beginning to end.  the "horror" of vi comes with
learning its true power; the most basic functions are no more
complicated than any other editor, just a bit different.  one
additional upside... vi is *guaranteed* (as much as anything is
guaranteed) to be available on "most" any *nix system out there -
only one basic learning curve.
</devil's advocate>


--- Original Message ---
From: Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] where's pine?

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>Doesn't MC require a working X?  If X is toasted, is the MC
editor still=20
>useable?=20=20
>
>praedor
>
>On Friday 01 November 2002 08:48 am, logic7 wrote:
>> Use the editor in MC. It's dead simple to use. no silly
command strings
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:praedor@;lapdog.ravenhome.net]On Behalf Of Praedor Tempus
>> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:35 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [expert] where's pine?
>>
>> On Thursday 31 October 2002 07:49 pm, ET wrote:
>> > On Thursday 31 October 2002 07:32 pm, Toshiro wrote:
>> > > Anybody knows why Mandrake is no longer providing this
package?
>>
>> Does that include its parts such as pico?  It would be nice
for pico to be
>> included by itself if possible as it is one of the easiest to use
>> text-based editors there is.  Vi and emacs are monstrosities
that require=
> a
>> great deal of cryptic command string memorization while pico
is all right
>> there.  I depend upon it to fix things from the CLI when
things with the
>> GUI go down the tubes.
>>
>> praedor
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