what you say makes perfect sense to me. It was not what I wished to hear, but it is very logical and wise.
So, anyone has an idea of when Mdk will package its own Evolution 1.2 ?
/stefano
Jack Coates wrote:
Speaking from experience, something will break. I've been there. There's
a reason why Red Carpet includes system update channels for your distro
in addition to the desktop channel and any products you purchased...
it's because they're creating an update path which has potential to be
(and therefor eventually is) incompatible with the path provided via
Mandrake.
In a way this points to another weakness of RPM, which is the ability to
specify dependencies with something like foobar version >= 2.0.
foobar2-1 and foobar-2-0.1 will fail, even though they have the right
code inside them. Get two different distributors of the same libraries
going on the same system, and sooner or later you're going to break
something.
If you go with Red Carpet, trust Ximian to do everything for you and
quit using urpmi/rpmdrake. If you want to stick with urpmi/rpmdrake,
then wait for Mandrake to package the rpms or build Ximian applications
from .tgz.
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 11:27, Stefano Pogliani wrote:
Ok, I understand your point and I sympathize.
But, let's put my question in another form: which is the risk of installing some of the GNOME packages that are said to be required by the new Evolution 1.2 and which are not signed by Mandrake ?
If I install "libgtkhtml20, 1.0.4-6.ximian.1" as proposed by the new Evolution, where currently I have "1.0.4-4mdk",
what will it happen when Mandrake will publish a version "1.0.4-6mdk" or, anyway, a new version ?
/stefano
Jack Coates wrote:
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 10:45, Robert Goshko wrote:
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 09:09, Stefano Pogliani wrote:The thing about RPM auto-installers (urpmi too) is that they work fine
Rob,Stefano,
if you downloaded all the packages, then you manually did what Red Carpet did !
I mean, you installed some other packages that could, one day, conflict with the ones from Mandrake.
Am I correct ?
In theory, but from some of the postings I've seen on the Ximain User
mailing list, this seems to vary. I hear lots of people complaining
about how "Red Carpet did this and that to my system".
I have never tried it so I cannot tell you first hand. I am always a
little "weary" of "just push the button and we will download what you
need and install it" software, call me old fashioned, but if the system
is going to get pooched, I would like to do it myself, at least I'll
know exactly what I did.
when a distribution is fresh. The problems arise when you want to
install new stuff on said distribution and have to update 7/10ths of the
system to satisfy dependencies that may or may not actually exist in the
world outside of the RPM database.
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